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From: rawcswi@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: How many different processors do you use?
Date: 1999/06/10
Date: 1999-06-10T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7jol96$kji$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7jmmqi$vm2$1@nnrp1.deja.com

In article <7jmmqi$vm2$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <7jm5pa$ome$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>   muddy_buddy@my-deja.com wrote:
> > In article <7jk7hk$36s$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> >   Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > > In article <7jjij7$qci$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > >   muddy_buddy@my-deja.com wrote:
> > > > 2. The Reagen adminstration was so anti-gov that they
> didn't
> > > > fund a quality free or at least cheap Ada development
> system
> > > > for education, and small companies.
> > >
> > > This claim is not even vagely related to reality.
> >
> > It was a major factor.
>
> (lots of irrelevant stuff snipped)
>
> Nope! You completely missed what I said was not related
> to reality, and that is the claim that the failure to support
> a quality free Ada development system was due to some kind of
> Reagan anti-gov attitude, that's complete nonsense. And I am
> the person to know, since I am the person who lobbied for this
> for many years, and finally succeeded with Chris Anderson's
> support in getting this to happen.

In fairness to muddy_buddy, there is a vague connection to reality--
the Reagan administration did have an effect on funding for
academic research, for example.  And he was talking about the
interpretation of Reagan's policies by those who were (in his
view) responsible for promoting or not promoting Ada.  If the
government during the early 80's had dropped a lot of money
into promoting Ada use in universities, many of them would have
started to use it (it supplied a standardized language with
concurrency, exceptions and other things that the more common
teaching language Pascal didn't offer) and Ada might be more
popular today (popular as it may be in some areas, I haven't seen
much use for my modest knowledge of Ada except to speed learning
of Oracle PL/SQL).

But the Reagan administration also put a lot of money into the
military, which must have included Ada (what were they planning
to program the Strategic Defense Initiative in?), and my impression
of the history of GNAT is that the government funded the initial
GPLed Ada compiler (GNAT or the GNAT precursor?), as a conscious
choice to make an Ada compiler freely available.  Is this an accurate
understanding of the lobbying and support from Chris Anderson you
refer to?

--
MJSR



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Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <37576ded.26569745@news.mpx.com.au>
     [not found]   ` <7j8ac0$eah$1@uranium.btinternet.com>
     [not found]     ` <7jh07e$tek$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
     [not found]       ` <7jhp34$6f1$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
1999-06-08  0:00         ` How many different processors do you use? muddy_buddy
1999-06-08  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-09  0:00             ` Something doesn't compute here (was Re: How many different processors do you use?) David Kristola
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Elizabeth D Rather
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Jerry Petrey
1999-06-09  0:00                 ` Jim Prince
1999-06-12  0:00                   ` Aidan Skinner
1999-06-09  0:00             ` How many different processors do you use? muddy_buddy
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-09  0:00                 ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` tmoran
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` tmoran
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` dennison
1999-06-10  0:00                         ` Robert B. Love 
1999-06-11  0:00                           ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` tmoran
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-11  0:00                         ` muddy_buddy
1999-06-12  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-12  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` Hyman Rosen
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` rawcswi [this message]
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` rawcswi
1999-06-20  0:00                       ` Eric Roesinger
1999-06-09  0:00           ` Markus Kuhn
1999-06-09  0:00             ` Jon Kirwan
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Ed Avis
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` Jon Kirwan
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Ada95 (was: How many different processors do you use?) Markus Kuhn
1999-06-09  0:00               ` How many different processors do you use? dennison
1999-06-09  0:00               ` Markus Kuhn
1999-06-10  0:00               ` John Kodis
1999-06-09  0:00                 ` martin lytz
1999-06-09  0:00                 ` Keith Thompson
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-10  0:00                   ` Steve O'Neill
1999-06-10  0:00                     ` Fraser Wilson
     [not found]                     ` <7jpb1e$ic8$1@remarq.com>
1999-06-11  0:00                       ` fraser
1999-06-11  0:00                         ` Tucker Taft
1999-06-11  0:00                     ` David Botton
1999-06-10  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00             ` Everett M. Greene
1999-06-11  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-11  0:00                 ` Dave Hansen
1999-06-11  0:00                   ` martin lytz
1999-06-12  0:00                 ` Roger Espel Llima
1999-06-11  0:00               ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-06-12  0:00               ` mjsilva
1999-06-14  0:00                 ` Everett M. Greene
1999-06-25  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-26  0:00                     ` Everett M. Greene
1999-06-28  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-12  0:00               ` markh
1999-06-12  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-13  0:00                   ` markh
1999-06-25  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-25  0:00                       ` Lew Pitcher
1999-06-28  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-28  0:00                           ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-28  0:00                             ` Dan Nagle
1999-06-28  0:00                         ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-28  0:00                           ` Michael A. Covington
1999-06-28  0:00                             ` Marin David Condic
1999-06-29  0:00                               ` Michael A. Covington
1999-06-29  0:00                                 ` Richard Kettlewell
1999-06-30  0:00                                   ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-07-08  0:00                                     ` Stefan Skoglund
1999-07-09  0:00                                       ` no-one
1999-06-28  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-06-10  0:00             ` Greg Martin
1999-06-09  0:00           ` Matt Cox
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