Re: Something doesn't compute here (was Re: How many different processors do you use?)

["Elizabeth D Rather" <erather@forth.com>]

David Kristola wrote in message <7jl0jt$qve3@svlss.lmms.lmco.com>...
>IMO, there seem to be two factors moving companies and people
>away from Ada:
>
>1. Companies don't want to train people (it costs money).
>2. Ada knowledgeable software engineers are rare and therefore
>expensive, and companies would rather have a cheap workforce.
>
>While it is most likely true that experienced people working
>with the support of a language like Ada can probably out
>produce (per their cost) entry level <fill in popular language
>name> coders, this does not seem to be taken as pertinent where
>the decisions are made.
>
>Welcome to the race for the bottom (line).


A similar situation exists regarding Forth, which has also been
shown to reduce project costs significantly.  Management is
reluctant to use it because "there aren't any Forth programmers"
while within the Forth community we see lots of excellent Forth
programmers working in C/C++ because they can't persuade their
management to use Forth, because there aren't any....

I think some of these managers are using "bottom line" arguments
as a cover for basic "herd instinct" decisions.

Cheers,
Elizabeth