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From: Mitch@world.nospam
Subject: Re: Java momentum slowing ?
Date: 1999/05/10
Date: 1999-05-10T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7h6icq$2165@drn.newsguy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7h694a$cnv$1@cf01.edf.fr

In article <7h694a$cnv$1@cf01.edf.fr>, "Pascal says...
 
>No. You are right. But it depends what you are thinking when you say
>"standard". Java is not a standard either. But here is not my point. For
>graphical stuff we have some very good and fast growing technologies :
>Tk/Tcl and GTK both are cross-plateforms are very cost effective
>in terms of developpement, are very well designed.
>

compared to Java SWING, they are a toy. You really can't be serious
to compare what you can do with Swing compared to tcl/tk, are you?

>Also, keep in mind that the most important GUI today is the browser !
>

really? tell us then how well you design a full GUI with pull down
menus, file dialogs, tree structures, wizards, drag/drop, 2D, 3D,
animation, etc.. with just HTML tags in a browser? 
 
>In this respect Ada is (as all others languages) just fine. In CGI mode
>you just have to output some HTML, XML, CSS... infos.
>
 
you are confusing presentation of static data, with having an interactive 
user interface. 

The ability to have powerfull GUI that is portable is very important. 
right now, there are win32, Swing, and the rest lesser able technologies 
such as gtk, qt, tcl/tk and the rest. 

Java offers the best solution as it is portable, very rich in functionality
and well defined and dcoumented, and full support in the industry from
every one, expect MS of course, since it is not in the interest of MS
for Java to successed. But Java is by all account a success so far and
continues to improve.


best,
Mitch.





  reply	other threads:[~1999-05-10  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-04-29  0:00 Java momentum slowing ? Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-04-29  0:00 ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-29  0:00   ` x
     [not found]   ` <7gesv8$1bol@drn.newsguy.com>
1999-05-02  0:00     ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-01  0:00       ` Mike
1999-05-02  0:00         ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-05-03  0:00           ` dvdeug
1999-05-04  0:00             ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-05-04  0:00               ` David Starner
1999-05-05  0:00                 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-05-05  0:00                   ` bob
1999-05-05  0:00                   ` David Starner
1999-05-02  0:00         ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-02  0:00           ` David Botton
1999-05-03  0:00         ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-02  0:00       ` David Botton
1999-05-02  0:00         ` bob
1999-05-02  0:00           ` Mitch
1999-05-02  0:00             ` Tom
1999-05-02  0:00         ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-04  0:00     ` Andrzej Lewandowski
1999-04-30  0:00 ` Tony Huynh
1999-04-30  0:00   ` Jean-Marten Marchi
     [not found]     ` <7gdlca$2j5l@drn.newsguy.com>
1999-05-02  0:00       ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-02  0:00         ` Bob
1999-05-03  0:00           ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-06  0:00             ` Richard D Riehle
1999-05-06  0:00               ` Matthew Whiting
1999-05-06  0:00                 ` Renaming Ada (Re: Java momentum slowing ?) David Botton
1999-05-06  0:00                   ` bob
1999-05-07  0:00                     ` dennison
1999-05-07  0:00                     ` P.S. Norby
1999-05-07  0:00                     ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-07  0:00                     ` Ada2001
1999-05-07  0:00                       ` dennison
1999-05-10  0:00                         ` Nick Roberts
1999-05-10  0:00                           ` Marin David Condic
1999-05-07  0:00                   ` carlislemc
1999-05-07  0:00                     ` Ronald Cole
1999-05-07  0:00                   ` Matthew Whiting
1999-05-10  0:00                   ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-07  0:00               ` Java momentum slowing ? Bob Munck
1999-05-07  0:00                 ` Martin C. Carlisle
1999-05-08  0:00                 ` steve
1999-05-09  0:00                   ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-09  0:00                     ` David Botton
1999-05-09  0:00                       ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-09  0:00                         ` bob
1999-05-09  0:00                           ` David Botton
1999-05-10  0:00                             ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-10  0:00                               ` Rob
1999-05-10  0:00                           ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-10  0:00                             ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-10  0:00                             ` Florian Weimer
1999-05-09  0:00                         ` David Botton
1999-05-09  0:00                           ` bill
1999-05-09  0:00                             ` David Botton
1999-05-09  0:00                               ` Steve
1999-05-10  0:00                                 ` David Botton
1999-05-11  0:00                                   ` David Botton
1999-05-11  0:00                                     ` bob
1999-05-12  0:00                                       ` Lance Kibblewhite
1999-05-12  0:00                                         ` David Botton
1999-05-12  0:00                                           ` Lance Kibblewhite
1999-05-12  0:00                                             ` Hyman Rosen
1999-05-12  0:00                                               ` David Botton
1999-05-12  0:00                                                 ` Keith Thompson
1999-05-14  0:00                                                   ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-14  0:00                                                     ` [OT] " Clayton Weaver
1999-05-12  0:00                                                 ` Dave
1999-05-13  0:00                                                   ` David Botton
1999-05-13  0:00                                                     ` Simon Wright
1999-05-13  0:00                                                   ` Pat Rogers
1999-05-10  0:00                     ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-10  0:00                       ` Mitch [this message]
1999-05-10  0:00                         ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-11  0:00                     ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-09  0:00                   ` bill
1999-05-09  0:00                     ` Simon Wright
1999-05-14  0:00                       ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-10  0:00                   ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-10  0:00                   ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-10  0:00               ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-22  0:00           ` olefevre
1999-05-22  0:00             ` Bob
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