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From: Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-dejanews.com>
Subject: Re: GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?)
Date: 1999/05/08
Date: 1999-05-08T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7h2ig6$apr$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: J3YY2.2192$2j3.3654@clnws01.we.mediaone.net

In article <J3YY2.2192$2j3.3654@clnws01.we.mediaone.net>,
  pmartin@mail.earthlink.net (Pascal F. Martin) wrote:
> This is an idealistic view, as proving an interface correct is not
(yet)
> exact science. The mechanical and engineering science use a different
> sequence which I like very much, as it copes with real life problems:
>
> design and document the interfaces
> refine the interfaces till they are accepted by peers
> implement (this may infere a few changes in the interfaces)
> document the interfaces "as built".

Sure some iteration is required, but it can often be minimized,
and you can come very close to the ideal.

For example, for one project I did for Honeywell, a full real time
executive, with thread support, synchronization primitives, integral
debugger etc, was done by FIRST writing the user reference manual
documenting the API in completely detail, THEN writing the executive
(some 50,000 lines of assembly code). very few changes were required
to the manual, almost all stylistic copy-editing stuff (they hired
an English PhD to look over the manual and I had to let her make
a *few* changes to avoid her completely destroying important technical
stuff :-)

But in any case our discussion here is over detail. Either approach
is very far from the "implement first, document alter if at all"
method :-)

Robert Dewar


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  reply	other threads:[~1999-05-08  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-04-17  0:00 Ada compiler for PC? Michael Feher
1999-04-17  0:00 ` Steven Hovater
1999-04-17  0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-04-18  0:00   ` Tom Moran
1999-04-20  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-20  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-20  0:00       ` Tom Moran
1999-04-20  0:00       ` GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?) SpamSpamSpam
1999-04-21  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-21  0:00           ` Glen
1999-04-21  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-21  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-21  0:00               ` root
1999-04-22  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-22  0:00                   ` Glen
1999-04-23  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-22  0:00                       ` Russell Senior
1999-04-23  0:00                         ` bourguet
1999-04-25  0:00                           ` Geoffrey KEATING
1999-04-25  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                               ` EGCS & GNAT Was (Re: GNAT versions) David Starner
1999-04-26  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-26  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-26  0:00                               ` GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?) Geoffrey KEATING
     [not found]                             ` <7fua23$fgh$1@nnrp1 <37234dca.a509d0d9@aasaa.ofe.org>
1999-04-26  0:00                               ` EGCS & GNAT Was (Re: GNAT versions) Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-26  0:00                             ` GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?) bourguet
1999-04-23  0:00                         ` Pascal Obry
1999-04-23  0:00                           ` dennison
1999-04-23  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-24  0:00                           ` Christopher Browne
1999-04-23  0:00                         ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-23  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-23  0:00                           ` Russell Senior
1999-04-23  0:00                             ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-25  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-23  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-23  0:00                               ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                             ` <7fqld6$htu$1@nnrp1.dej <1999Apr23.172908.1@eisner>
     [not found]                               ` <7frqmj$bg6$1@mulga.cs.mu.oz.au>
1999-04-24  0:00                                 ` Leslie Mikesell
1999-04-25  0:00                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                                     ` Maciej Stachowiak
1999-04-26  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                                         ` Maciej Stachowiak
1999-04-26  0:00                                         ` Per Bothner
1999-04-27  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00                                             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-28  0:00                                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00                                                 ` David Kastrup
1999-04-28  0:00                                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00                                                 ` Per Bothner
1999-04-30  0:00                                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-04  0:00                                                   ` Mike Stump
1999-05-05  0:00                                                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-06  0:00                                                       ` Mike Stump
1999-05-06  0:00                                                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-06  0:00                                                           ` Andi Kleen
1999-05-06  0:00                                                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-07  0:00                                                           ` Mike Stump
1999-05-07  0:00                                                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-08  0:00                                                       ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-08  0:00                                                         ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1999-05-08  0:00                                                           ` bill
1999-05-17  0:00                                                   ` Richard Kenner
1999-05-19  0:00                                                     ` Nick Roberts
1999-04-27  0:00                                           ` Stan Shebs
1999-04-25  0:00                                     ` Russ Allbery
1999-04-25  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-24  0:00                               ` Fergus Henderson
1999-04-24  0:00                             ` Russ Allbery
1999-04-24  0:00                       ` Ronald Cole
1999-04-22  0:00                 ` dennison
1999-04-18  0:00 ` Ada compiler for PC? Wilhelm Spickermann
     [not found] ` <7fua23$fgh$1@nnrp1 <37234dca.a <1999Apr25.201259.1@eisner>
1999-04-25  0:00   ` EGCS & GNAT Was (Re: GNAT versions) Leslie Mikesell
1999-04-26  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-26  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-04  0:00         ` Mike Stump
1999-05-05  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-26  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
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