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From: Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-dejanews.com>
Subject: Re: GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?)
Date: 1999/05/06
Date: 1999-05-06T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7gs0d5$lvh$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: FBAEH2.9C0@kithrup.com

In article <FBAEH2.9C0@kithrup.com>,
  mrs@kithrup.com (Mike Stump) wrote:

> Well, I take exception to the word entirely.  There was a mailing list
> called eh@cygnus.com, and we discussed tons of details and issues,
> from many language perspectives, including Ada and C++.

This was in my response to the claim that unfortunately the exception
handling in Ada had been developed entirely independently of the
mechanism in C++.

I did the design and implementation of the exception handling in
Ada, so I am pretty familiar with what was and was not done. Yes
there were early discussions about trying to deal with commonality
between the languages, but unfortunately these did not result in
a common facility. I tried to understand what had been done for
C++ but failed. Others here at ACT are still trying to do more
merging here, but it is not easy. I found no high level interface
oriented description of the mechanism used for C++. Perhaps I
simply did not look hard enough, or just did not know how to read
the code correctly. I find the back end of GCC rather difficult
to navigate (and indeed in a recent email Per Bothner (hope I
remembered the spelling right) claimed that the entire gcc compiler
was ill-documented so why single out the exception handling). I
find that position FAR too pessimistic, and indeed in general the
gcc backend is documented a lot better than many proprietary
compilers with which I am familiar, but in this particular case,
we have not yet achieved the ideal of merging the exception handling
of C++ and Ada. I believe this could only have been achieved if we
had started with a fully documented high level design.

Again, this may simply be a different way of working, here at ACT,
we really aren't very good at roaming around code and figuring out
what is going on, we depend on a very structured design approach, so
there is undoubtedly a bit of a culture clash :-) :-)


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  reply	other threads:[~1999-05-06  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-04-17  0:00 Ada compiler for PC? Michael Feher
1999-04-17  0:00 ` Steven Hovater
1999-04-17  0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-04-18  0:00   ` Tom Moran
1999-04-20  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-20  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-20  0:00       ` GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?) SpamSpamSpam
1999-04-21  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-21  0:00           ` Glen
1999-04-21  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-21  0:00               ` root
1999-04-22  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-22  0:00                   ` Glen
1999-04-23  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-22  0:00                       ` Russell Senior
1999-04-23  0:00                         ` bourguet
1999-04-25  0:00                           ` Geoffrey KEATING
1999-04-25  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                               ` EGCS & GNAT Was (Re: GNAT versions) David Starner
1999-04-26  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-26  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-26  0:00                               ` GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?) Geoffrey KEATING
1999-04-26  0:00                             ` bourguet
     [not found]                             ` <7fua23$fgh$1@nnrp1 <37234dca.a509d0d9@aasaa.ofe.org>
1999-04-26  0:00                               ` EGCS & GNAT Was (Re: GNAT versions) Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-23  0:00                         ` GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?) Pascal Obry
1999-04-23  0:00                           ` dennison
1999-04-23  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-24  0:00                           ` Christopher Browne
1999-04-23  0:00                         ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-23  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-23  0:00                           ` Russell Senior
1999-04-23  0:00                             ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-25  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-23  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-23  0:00                               ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                             ` <7fqld6$htu$1@nnrp1.dej <1999Apr23.172908.1@eisner>
     [not found]                               ` <7frqmj$bg6$1@mulga.cs.mu.oz.au>
1999-04-24  0:00                                 ` Leslie Mikesell
1999-04-25  0:00                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                                     ` Maciej Stachowiak
1999-04-26  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                                         ` Maciej Stachowiak
1999-04-26  0:00                                         ` Per Bothner
1999-04-27  0:00                                           ` Stan Shebs
1999-04-27  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00                                             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-28  0:00                                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00                                                 ` David Kastrup
1999-04-28  0:00                                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00                                                 ` Per Bothner
1999-04-30  0:00                                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-04  0:00                                                   ` Mike Stump
1999-05-05  0:00                                                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-06  0:00                                                       ` Mike Stump
1999-05-06  0:00                                                         ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1999-05-06  0:00                                                           ` Andi Kleen
1999-05-06  0:00                                                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-07  0:00                                                           ` Mike Stump
1999-05-07  0:00                                                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-08  0:00                                                       ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-08  0:00                                                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-08  0:00                                                           ` bill
1999-05-17  0:00                                                   ` Richard Kenner
1999-05-19  0:00                                                     ` Nick Roberts
1999-04-27  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                                     ` Russ Allbery
1999-04-25  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-24  0:00                               ` Fergus Henderson
1999-04-24  0:00                             ` Russ Allbery
1999-04-24  0:00                       ` Ronald Cole
1999-04-22  0:00                 ` dennison
1999-04-21  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-20  0:00       ` Ada compiler for PC? Tom Moran
1999-04-18  0:00 ` Wilhelm Spickermann
     [not found] ` <7fua23$fgh$1@nnrp1 <37234dca.a <1999Apr25.201259.1@eisner>
1999-04-25  0:00   ` EGCS & GNAT Was (Re: GNAT versions) Leslie Mikesell
1999-04-26  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-26  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-26  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-04  0:00         ` Mike Stump
1999-05-05  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
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