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From: RSWhite@nospam.somewhere.ia.us (Robert S. White)
Subject: Re: Question for the folks who designed Ada95
Date: 1999/04/29
Date: 1999-04-29T01:49:37+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7g8drh$1q00$1@odie.mcleod.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7g8390$225c@drn.newsguy.com

In article <7g8390$225c@drn.newsguy.com>, bill@nospam says...
>
>All what we know, is that looking at something written as a[i] tells 
>right away that it is an array, while with a(i) you are not sure what 
>it is in Ada.

  And just why do you need to know the implementation when you are just
an oo user of the object?   Can we say "loosely coupled" here?

>If Iam maintaining someone else's code, it helps me to understand the code 
>faster that way.

   Ah but a maintainer _hopefully_ has a smart editor/browser that knows
how to quickly pop up the body's source text - like "visit body" under
Rational Apex.

>Someone argument about them modifying the array to a function and not breaking
>someone else code (becuase in Ada "()" is used instead of "[]") is a 
>very weak argument.

  But, but,  IMHO it is a good argument!  The users of the object/package
don't have to edit their source code when the implementation changes.  No
module version control check outs, edits, check ins, code inspections, etc.
Just a new full up link and integration/regression tests are required.  A
lot less staff effort and expense!

> In the real world, one would design their data to 
>be hidden from users, and have access methods to read/write to it, (can we
>says OO here?) and so, users would never care if you used arrays or 
>functions anyway. you should use 'messages' :)

  Nope...don't use "messages", instead just use accessor functions.
Seems like my "real world" and yours differs :)
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  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-04-29  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-04-26  0:00 Question for the folks who designed Ada95 Corey Ashford
1999-04-27  0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-27  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00       ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00           ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Fraser Wilson
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-28  0:00       ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-28  0:00     ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-28  0:00     ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-27  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-04-27  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00       ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-29  0:00           ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Fraser Wilson
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Mark A Biggar
1999-04-30  0:00                   ` Tucker Taft
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-30  0:00                 ` David Brown
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Geert Bosch
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-27  0:00     ` bill
1999-04-27  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00         ` Al Christians
1999-04-27  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-27  0:00             ` Al Christians
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-04-27  0:00       ` dennison
1999-04-27  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-27  0:00     ` David Starner
1999-04-27  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00         ` David Starner
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-04-28  0:00           ` dennison
1999-04-28  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00                 ` Brian Hanson
1999-04-28  0:00                   ` bill
1999-04-29  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00                       ` Pat Rogers
1999-04-29  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00                           ` dennison
1999-04-29  0:00                             ` Pat Rogers
1999-04-29  0:00                     ` Robert S. White [this message]
1999-04-29  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-30  0:00                         ` Robert S. White
1999-04-30  0:00                           ` dennison
1999-04-29  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-30  0:00                         ` Robert S. White
1999-04-30  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Bill Ghrist
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-29  0:00           ` Question for the folks who designed Ad David Kristola
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Paul Duquennoy
1999-04-27  0:00     ` Question for the folks who designed Ada95 Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-29  0:00     ` Aidan Skinner
1999-04-30  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-27  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-28  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00       ` Keith Thompson
1999-04-29  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
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