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From: bill@nospam
Subject: Re: Question for the folks who designed Ada95
Date: 1999/04/28
Date: 1999-04-28T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7g8390$225c@drn.newsguy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 37278218.ADE17A46@lawson.com

In article <37278218.ADE17A46@lawson.com>, Brian says...
 >
>> Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-dejanews.com> writes:
>>
>> > What is missing from this discussion is an argument that
>> > it is advantageous to distinguish array and function
>> > references ... Yes, people want [] because they are
>> > used to it from (some) other languages, but that's a
>> > very weak argument.
>>

>> Function calls can have side effects; array indexing does not.
>> It seems useful to distinguish those two.
>
>Arrays are potentially modifiable, functions are not.
>
>giving
>
>    pure functions =similar to= constant arrays
>    functions with side affects
>    non constant arrays.
>
>Should it be usefull to syntatically distinguish between all these.
 
you guys are all arguing like language lawyers (may be because you are :)

we, your average run-of-the-mill programmers do not care about all this
mumble jumble.  

All what we know, is that looking at something written as a[i] tells 
right away that it is an array, while with a(i) you are not sure what 
it is in Ada.

If Iam maintaining someone else's code, it helps me to understand the code 
faster that way.

Someone argument about them modifying the array to a function and not breaking
someone else code (becuase in Ada "()" is used instead of "[]") is a 
very weak argument. In the real world, one would design their data to 
be hidden from users, and have access methods to read/write to it, (can we
says OO here?) and so, users would never care if you used arrays or 
functions anyway. you should use 'messages' :)

bill





  reply	other threads:[~1999-04-28  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-04-26  0:00 Question for the folks who designed Ada95 Corey Ashford
1999-04-27  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-28  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00       ` Keith Thompson
1999-04-29  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-27  0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-27  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00       ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-28  0:00       ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00           ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Fraser Wilson
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-28  0:00     ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-28  0:00     ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-27  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-04-27  0:00     ` David Starner
1999-04-27  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00         ` David Starner
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Bill Ghrist
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-04-28  0:00           ` dennison
1999-04-28  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00                 ` Brian Hanson
1999-04-28  0:00                   ` bill [this message]
1999-04-29  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00                       ` Pat Rogers
1999-04-29  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00                           ` dennison
1999-04-29  0:00                             ` Pat Rogers
1999-04-29  0:00                     ` Robert S. White
1999-04-29  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-30  0:00                         ` Robert S. White
1999-04-29  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-30  0:00                         ` Robert S. White
1999-04-30  0:00                           ` dennison
1999-04-30  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-29  0:00           ` Question for the folks who designed Ad David Kristola
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Paul Duquennoy
1999-04-27  0:00     ` Question for the folks who designed Ada95 bill
1999-04-27  0:00       ` dennison
1999-04-27  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-27  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00         ` Al Christians
1999-04-27  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-27  0:00             ` Al Christians
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00       ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-29  0:00           ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Fraser Wilson
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Mark A Biggar
1999-04-30  0:00                   ` Tucker Taft
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-30  0:00                 ` David Brown
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Geert Bosch
1999-04-27  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-29  0:00     ` Aidan Skinner
1999-04-30  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Corey Ashford
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