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From: Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-dejanews.com>
Subject: Re: Question for the folks who designed Ada95
Date: 1999/04/28
Date: 1999-04-28T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7g7h5s$gcl$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7g72rf$hjh3@ftp.kvaerner.com

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In article <7g72rf$hjh3@ftp.kvaerner.com>,
  "Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen" <tarjei.jensen@kvaerner.no>
wrote:
> What would a(5) := 4;

if a represents a function from an abstract point of view,
it does not mean a blithering thing. The fact that a is
implemented as an array is irrelevant. Indeed presumably
a reasonable choice for implementing a conceptual function
as an array would be to use a constant array, where the
above assignment would be illegal.

Which in my opinion voids the function opposition to the
common convention of using square brackets for array
indices.

There is no such *common* convention. There are *two*
common conventions in this case () and [], and plenty
of examples of languages using both (for example, Fortran,
PL/1, COBOL, Ada, all use (), and Algol derived languages
tend to use []).

But to call one of these common is simply tunnel vision.
You cannot argue this point on the basis of what is common.
Sure, for a given person (I assume you grew up in a C
heritage) one usage may seem more natural [the brackets
seem more natural to me because I am used to them from
Algol-68], but that's not a useful way to argue.

The referential transparency argument is a quite reasonable
one, and your assignment example does not refute it!


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  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-04-28  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-04-26  0:00 Question for the folks who designed Ada95 Corey Ashford
1999-04-27  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-04-27  0:00     ` David Starner
1999-04-27  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00         ` David Starner
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1999-04-28  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Bill Ghrist
1999-04-28  0:00           ` dennison
1999-04-28  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00                 ` Brian Hanson
1999-04-28  0:00                   ` bill
1999-04-29  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00                       ` Pat Rogers
1999-04-29  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00                           ` dennison
1999-04-29  0:00                             ` Pat Rogers
1999-04-29  0:00                     ` Robert S. White
1999-04-29  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-30  0:00                         ` Robert S. White
1999-04-29  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-30  0:00                         ` Robert S. White
1999-04-30  0:00                           ` dennison
1999-04-30  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00           ` Question for the folks who designed Ad David Kristola
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Paul Duquennoy
1999-04-27  0:00     ` Question for the folks who designed Ada95 bill
1999-04-27  0:00       ` dennison
1999-04-27  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-27  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00         ` Al Christians
1999-04-27  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-27  0:00             ` Al Christians
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00       ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-29  0:00           ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Geert Bosch
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Fraser Wilson
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Mark A Biggar
1999-04-30  0:00                   ` Tucker Taft
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-30  0:00                 ` David Brown
1999-04-27  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-29  0:00     ` Aidan Skinner
1999-04-30  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-27  0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-27  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00       ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-28  0:00       ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00           ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Fraser Wilson
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00     ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-28  0:00     ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-27  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-28  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-28  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00       ` Keith Thompson
1999-04-29  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
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