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From: Samuel Mize <smize@imagin.net>
Subject: Re: Question for the folks who designed Ada95
Date: 1999/04/28
Date: 1999-04-28T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7g5kcg$hrr@news2.newsguy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7g4tqn$5vk$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com

Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
>Here is
> the full quote from the AARM if people do not have it
> at hand:
...
> This seems quite straightforward and convincing!

Well, not to me, but only because I don't understand it.
I copied the AARM quote below.

Can someone explain to me why, for instance, 'Min isn't considered a
predefined operation?  It's predefined, it operates on objects of the
given type.  But it wasn't made an operator, so it apparently wasn't
considered a predefined operation.

I'm not arguing against the passage, I'd just like some help
understanding it.

Best,
Sam

> 
> <<AARM B.2 (9-a)>>
> 
> 9.a   Reason:  We considered making shifting and rotating
> be primitive operations of all modular types.  However, it
> is a design principle of Ada that all predefined operations
> should be operators (not functions named by identifiers).
> (Note that an early version of Ada had "abs" as an
> identifier, but it was changed to a reserved word operator
> before standardization of Ada 83.)  This is important
> because the implicit declarations would hide
> non-overloadable declarations with the same name,
> whereas operators are always overloadable.
> 
> Therefore, we would have had to make shift and rotate into
> reserved words, which would have been upward incompatible,
> or else invent new operator symbols, which seemed like too
> much mechanism.
> 
> <<end of quote>>

-- 
Samuel Mize -- smize@imagin.net (home email) -- Team Ada
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  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-04-28  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-04-26  0:00 Question for the folks who designed Ada95 Corey Ashford
1999-04-27  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-28  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00       ` Keith Thompson
1999-04-29  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-27  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-04-27  0:00     ` bill
1999-04-27  0:00       ` dennison
1999-04-27  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-27  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00         ` Al Christians
1999-04-27  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-27  0:00             ` Al Christians
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-04-27  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00       ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-29  0:00           ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Geert Bosch
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Fraser Wilson
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Mark A Biggar
1999-04-30  0:00                   ` Tucker Taft
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-30  0:00                 ` David Brown
1999-04-27  0:00     ` David Starner
1999-04-27  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00         ` David Starner
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Bill Ghrist
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-04-28  0:00           ` dennison
1999-04-28  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-28  0:00                 ` Brian Hanson
1999-04-28  0:00                   ` bill
1999-04-29  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00                       ` Pat Rogers
1999-04-29  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00                           ` dennison
1999-04-29  0:00                             ` Pat Rogers
1999-04-29  0:00                     ` Robert S. White
1999-04-29  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-30  0:00                         ` Robert S. White
1999-04-29  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-30  0:00                         ` Robert S. White
1999-04-30  0:00                           ` dennison
1999-04-30  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-28  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1999-04-29  0:00           ` Question for the folks who designed Ad David Kristola
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Paul Duquennoy
1999-04-27  0:00     ` Question for the folks who designed Ada95 Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-29  0:00     ` Aidan Skinner
1999-04-30  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-27  0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-27  0:00   ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-27  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00       ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00           ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-29  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00               ` Fraser Wilson
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-04-29  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00       ` Samuel Mize [this message]
1999-04-28  0:00         ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-28  0:00     ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-28  0:00     ` Corey Ashford
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