* Deffernrce between pubic&commercial Ada @ 1999-04-22 0:00 Eugene 1999-04-22 0:00 ` Martin C. Carlisle ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Eugene @ 1999-04-22 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Who knows how many differences between commertial & pubic versions of Gnat? How much does commertial version costs? Does exists a discount for educational organisations? Visual ADA, is it possible??? Ufff...So many questions. I hope that you'll not be angry. *Best Regards, Eugene* ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Deffernrce between pubic&commercial Ada 1999-04-22 0:00 Deffernrce between pubic&commercial Ada Eugene @ 1999-04-22 0:00 ` Martin C. Carlisle 1999-04-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 1999-04-22 0:00 ` Herwig Huener 1999-04-22 0:00 ` dennison 2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Martin C. Carlisle @ 1999-04-22 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <371ea706.0@public1.ktts.kharkov.ua>, Eugene <454^beorn@public.kharkov.ua> wrote: >Who knows how many differences between commertial & pubic >versions of Gnat? Public versions of GNAT tend to lag the commercial version, as it has been ACT's philosophy to be fairly sure everything will be straight-forward for unsupported customers (who they expect to be students) before releasing a new public version. However, the public versions are not "crippled" versions of the GNAT technology. >How much does commertial version costs? >Does exists a discount for educational organisations? These questions are best routed to ACT at sales@gnat.com -- I'm pretty sure the answer to the last question is yes. >Visual ADA, is it possible??? >Ufff...So many questions. I hope that you'll not be angry. Of course it's possible (where'd I put that text on Turing completeness?) There are several projects that assist in the development of GUI code, to include: CLAW Aonix GUI Builder RAPID (and apologies to others I've forgotten) The first two are based on Windows, the third on Tcl/Tk (so as to be multi-platform). --Martin -- Martin C. Carlisle, Asst Prof of Computer Science, US Air Force Academy carlislem@acm.org, http://www.usafa.af.mil/dfcs/bios/carlisle.html DISCLAIMER: This content in no way reflects the opinions, standards or policy of the US Air Force Academy or the United States Government. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Deffernrce between pubic&commercial Ada 1999-04-22 0:00 ` Martin C. Carlisle @ 1999-04-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Robert Dewar @ 1999-04-23 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <7fna8o$mkd$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU>, mcc@entropy.cs.princeton.edu (Martin C. Carlisle) wrote: > >How much does commertial version costs? > >Does exists a discount for educational organisations? There are indeed discounts for educational support, send mail to sales@gnat.com for details. Note however, that many schools use the public version without any formal support, and this is often quite appropriate. Indeed one of the primary intended uses of the public version is for student use. As others have noted, the public version of GNAT is a full featured version, it is not crippleware, as is the case for some other freely available software. Robert Dewar Ada Core Technologies -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Deffernrce between pubic&commercial Ada 1999-04-22 0:00 Deffernrce between pubic&commercial Ada Eugene 1999-04-22 0:00 ` Martin C. Carlisle @ 1999-04-22 0:00 ` Herwig Huener 1999-04-22 0:00 ` Samuel Mize 1999-04-25 0:00 ` Nick Roberts 1999-04-22 0:00 ` dennison 2 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Herwig Huener @ 1999-04-22 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) 1999-04-22 14:00:00 MEST Eugene wrote: > > ... commertial & pubic > versions of Gnat? ... > Ufff...So many questions. I hope that you'll not be angry. We are not, in any way. Methinks, most of us ponder the difference between 'pubic' and 'public'! :-) HH ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Deffernrce between pubic&commercial Ada 1999-04-22 0:00 ` Herwig Huener @ 1999-04-22 0:00 ` Samuel Mize 1999-04-22 0:00 ` Samuel Mize 1999-04-25 0:00 ` Nick Roberts 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Samuel Mize @ 1999-04-22 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Herwig Huener <Herwig.Huener@ulm.mch.sni.de> wrote: > Eugene wrote: >> >> ... commertial & pubic >> versions of Gnat? ... >> Ufff...So many questions. I hope that you'll not be angry. > > We are not, in any way. Methinks, most of us ponder the > difference between 'pubic' and 'public'! :-) I know as little as I can about pubic gnats... I don't know if there are any specific differences between the public and commerical versions at this moment. As I understand it, the public version of GNAT is often the same as the commercial version (except for the version ID, which indicates that it's the public version). At worst it's the previous commercial version. That is to say, it isn't crippleware or anything. Of course, when a new commercial version is released it will include new things, and these will only get into the public version when a new public version is released. There may also be "wavefront" versions of the compiler that fix a specific problem or provide a specific function, which is not yet rolled into the commercial version. ACT won't guarantee the public version, since they don't control it once it's been released -- they don't know if your copy has been altered, or corrupted in transmission, or picked up any pubic gnats or anything. Best, Sam Mize -- Samuel Mize -- smize@imagin.net (home email) -- Team Ada Fight Spam: see http://www.cauce.org/ \\\ Smert Spamonam ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Deffernrce between pubic&commercial Ada 1999-04-22 0:00 ` Samuel Mize @ 1999-04-22 0:00 ` Samuel Mize 1999-04-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Samuel Mize @ 1999-04-22 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Samuel Mize <smize@imagin.net> wrote: >> Eugene wrote: >>> >>> ... commertial & pubic >>> versions of Gnat? ... > There may also be "wavefront" versions of the compiler that > fix a specific problem or provide a specific function, which > is not yet rolled into the commercial version. There is one more difference: the public and commercial versions are released under the GNU license and the MGNU (Modified GNU) license, while the wavefronts are released under the super-secret NGNU (Non-scripsit GNU) license which empowers ACT to confiscate your computers and shoot your kids if you let anyone else see the source code. Best, Sam Mize -- Samuel Mize -- smize@imagin.net (home email) -- Team Ada Fight Spam: see http://www.cauce.org/ \\\ Smert Spamonam ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Deffernrce between pubic&commercial Ada 1999-04-22 0:00 ` Samuel Mize @ 1999-04-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Robert Dewar @ 1999-04-23 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <7foavg$3t1@news1.newsguy.com>, Samuel Mize <smize@imagin.net> wrote: > There is one more difference: the public and commercial > versions are released under the GNU license and the MGNU > (Modified GNU) license, while the wavefronts are released > under the super-secret NGNU (Non-scripsit GNU) license > which empowers ACT to confiscate your computers and shoot > your kids if you let anyone else see the source code. Since Sam put no :-) on that, and since people like spam-spam-spam might actually believe the above, I had better clarify :-) The wavefronts are released to specific customers to solve specific problems if there is no other way of solving the problem (generally customers and we prefer to find an effective work around if possible, since you don't want to move to a new less-tested version of the compiler whenever you have a problem if you can avoid it). These wavefronts are released under the GPL and GMG (GNAT modified GPL) in the usual manner, but with the implicit understanding that we would prefer these versions not be further distributed, since they are work in progress that has not been sufficiently well tested for release, and it would be confusing, and non-helpful, to have multiple versions of these wavefronts around (we don't even routinely make these available to our customers, only on request if they are needed to solve a problem!) Robert Dewar Ada Core Technologies -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Deffernrce between pubic&commercial Ada 1999-04-22 0:00 ` Herwig Huener 1999-04-22 0:00 ` Samuel Mize @ 1999-04-25 0:00 ` Nick Roberts 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Nick Roberts @ 1999-04-25 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Herwig Huener wrote in message <371F0EA1.F1D8B33@ulm.mch.sni.de>... [...] |Methinks, most of us ponder the |difference between 'pubic' and 'public'! :-) In one case you air your views, and in the other you view your hairs? ;-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Deffernrce between pubic&commercial Ada 1999-04-22 0:00 Deffernrce between pubic&commercial Ada Eugene 1999-04-22 0:00 ` Martin C. Carlisle 1999-04-22 0:00 ` Herwig Huener @ 1999-04-22 0:00 ` dennison 1999-04-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: dennison @ 1999-04-22 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <371ea706.0@public1.ktts.kharkov.ua>, "Eugene" <454^beorn@public.kharkov.ua> wrote: > Who knows how many differences between commertial & pubic > versions of Gnat? How much does commertial version costs? > Does exists a discount for educational organisations? I suspect sales@gnat.com knows, or perhaps in your case sales@act-europe.fr. But, as already pointed out by Herwig, I suggest you ask about the "public" version. Computer technology isn't quite advanced enough to have a pubic version. :-) Heck, I could make that typo too... -- T.E.D. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Deffernrce between pubic&commercial Ada 1999-04-22 0:00 ` dennison @ 1999-04-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Robert Dewar @ 1999-04-23 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <7fnib5$mhv$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, dennison@telepath.com wrote: > In article <371ea706.0@public1.ktts.kharkov.ua>, > Heck, I could make that typo too... It is an embarrasingly easy typo to make. I believe that ACT once formally announced a pubic version of GNAT some years ago :-) -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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