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From: Robert Dewar <dewar@gnat.com>
Subject: Re: GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?)
Date: 1999/04/22
Date: 1999-04-22T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7fndu7$im4$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 371E2F2A.662C8F4F@spam.com

In article <371E2F2A.662C8F4F@spam.com>,
  root <roffey@shagbadger.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Robert posts regards this subject ( even when he offers
> www.opensource.com instead of www.gnu.org for a
> definition of "free software". )

Please note that opensource is an appropriate source of
information on open source software, NOT on free software.
I have not ever suggested finding out about free software
from open source software.

This is perhaps a good opportunity to point out the
distinction. The emphasis in the open source community
is on quality achieved by making sources openly available.

The emphasis in free software is on providing freedom to
the user of the software.

They are not the same thing, although there is some
overlap. The GPL for instance qualifies software as being
open source. However, the APL, recently accepted by the
open source organization, is definitely NOT free software,
since it places definite limitations on what you can do
with the software you receive under this license that are
incompatible with the aims of free software.

For more information on this important distinction, you
should indeed visit www.gnu.org.

GNAT remains free software, and in general free software
will always meet the requirements for open source software,
but it is very important to understand that the reverse is
NOT the case.

Robert Dewar

P.S as for Glen being unhappy with the product we produce,
I guess I cannot say more than that it is impossible to
please everyone with a given product. This is a free and
open market place. If Glen is unhappy with the GNAT
product, I guess he will simply have to shop elsewhere
for an Ada compiler. GNAT is not the only shop in town!

It will remain the case that ACT is, as befits the Ada
world, very much focussed on quality. Sometimes there is
a conflict between ensuring quality and getting the latest
and greatest version out right away without adequate
testing. ACT chooses to resolve this conflict with an
emphasis on careful QA for all our released products.

This does not mean that all our products will be 100%
completely problem free. We work towards that goal
certainly, but if that was the requirement I am afraid
people would get even more unhappy about delayed releases
:-)

Now, as is appropriate to this discussion, a short update
on the 3.12 status.

We have closed further development on 3.12 and are now
stabilizing the release. It will have many nice new
features, as has been consistently true of new GNAT
releases, and we will try to get it into good shape for
release as soon as possible.

Robert Dewar
Ada Core Technologies

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  reply	other threads:[~1999-04-22  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-04-17  0:00 Ada compiler for PC? Michael Feher
1999-04-17  0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-04-18  0:00   ` Tom Moran
1999-04-20  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-20  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-20  0:00       ` Tom Moran
1999-04-20  0:00       ` GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?) SpamSpamSpam
1999-04-21  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-21  0:00           ` Glen
1999-04-21  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-21  0:00               ` root
1999-04-22  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar [this message]
1999-04-22  0:00                   ` Glen
1999-04-23  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-22  0:00                       ` Russell Senior
1999-04-23  0:00                         ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-23  0:00                           ` Russell Senior
1999-04-23  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-23  0:00                               ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-23  0:00                             ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-25  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-24  0:00                             ` Russ Allbery
     [not found]                             ` <7fqld6$htu$1@nnrp1.dej <1999Apr23.172908.1@eisner>
     [not found]                               ` <7frqmj$bg6$1@mulga.cs.mu.oz.au>
1999-04-24  0:00                                 ` Leslie Mikesell
1999-04-25  0:00                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                                     ` Russ Allbery
1999-04-25  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                                     ` Maciej Stachowiak
1999-04-26  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                                         ` Maciej Stachowiak
1999-04-26  0:00                                         ` Per Bothner
1999-04-27  0:00                                           ` Stan Shebs
1999-04-27  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00                                             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-28  0:00                                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00                                                 ` David Kastrup
1999-04-28  0:00                                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00                                                 ` Per Bothner
1999-04-30  0:00                                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-04  0:00                                                   ` Mike Stump
1999-05-05  0:00                                                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-06  0:00                                                       ` Mike Stump
1999-05-06  0:00                                                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-06  0:00                                                           ` Andi Kleen
1999-05-06  0:00                                                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-07  0:00                                                           ` Mike Stump
1999-05-07  0:00                                                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-08  0:00                                                       ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-08  0:00                                                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-08  0:00                                                           ` bill
1999-05-17  0:00                                                   ` Richard Kenner
1999-05-19  0:00                                                     ` Nick Roberts
1999-04-27  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-24  0:00                               ` Fergus Henderson
1999-04-23  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-23  0:00                         ` Pascal Obry
1999-04-23  0:00                           ` dennison
1999-04-23  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-24  0:00                           ` Christopher Browne
1999-04-23  0:00                         ` bourguet
1999-04-25  0:00                           ` Geoffrey KEATING
1999-04-25  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                               ` EGCS & GNAT Was (Re: GNAT versions) David Starner
1999-04-26  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-26  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-26  0:00                               ` GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?) Geoffrey KEATING
     [not found]                             ` <7fua23$fgh$1@nnrp1 <37234dca.a509d0d9@aasaa.ofe.org>
1999-04-26  0:00                               ` EGCS & GNAT Was (Re: GNAT versions) Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-26  0:00                             ` GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?) bourguet
1999-04-24  0:00                       ` Ronald Cole
1999-04-22  0:00                 ` dennison
1999-04-21  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-17  0:00 ` Ada compiler for PC? Steven Hovater
1999-04-18  0:00 ` Wilhelm Spickermann
     [not found] ` <7fua23$fgh$1@nnrp1 <37234dca.a <1999Apr25.201259.1@eisner>
1999-04-25  0:00   ` EGCS & GNAT Was (Re: GNAT versions) Leslie Mikesell
1999-04-26  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-26  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-26  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-04  0:00         ` Mike Stump
1999-05-05  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
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