Ada-like language

Ada-like language

[Olivier Marcoux]

Hello all

I'm searching a list of currently used Ada-like languages
or Ada-derived languages having almost the same syntax as Ada

Can you help me ? Or do you have web link to a presentation of such
languages ?

Thanks

Olivier

Re: Ada-like language

[dennison]

In article <3366D07E.C1E62BDE@polymtl.ca>,
  Olivier Marcoux <olivier.marcoux@polymtl.ca> wrote:
> Hello all
>
> I'm searching a list of currently used Ada-like languages
> or Ada-derived languages having almost the same syntax as Ada
>
> Can you help me ? Or do you have web link to a presentation of such
> languages ?

A computer language family tree would be an interesting project.

The only ones I've seen that look similar to a casual obverver are Pascal and
the Modula varieties. Oberon looks a bit similar, but its just different
enough that I wouldn't count it.

I don't think there are *any* true Ada-derived languages (well...perhaps VHDL,
if you count hardware design languages). Quite a few have features that were
inspired by Ada, but syntax straight out of C. C++, Java, Concurrent C, and a
host of others are in this category.


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Re: Ada-like language

[Brian Rogoff]

On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 dennison@telepath.com wrote:
> In article <3366D07E.C1E62BDE@polymtl.ca>,
>   Olivier Marcoux <olivier.marcoux@polymtl.ca> wrote:
> > Hello all
> >
> > I'm searching a list of currently used Ada-like languages
> > or Ada-derived languages having almost the same syntax as Ada
> >
> > Can you help me ? Or do you have web link to a presentation of such
> > languages ?

I think Oracle (the DB company) made a language (PSQL?) that is based on
Ada. I'm not sure though...

> A computer language family tree would be an interesting project.
> 
> The only ones I've seen that look similar to a casual obverver are Pascal and
> the Modula varieties. Oberon looks a bit similar, but its just different
> enough that I wouldn't count it.
> 
> I don't think there are *any* true Ada-derived languages (well...perhaps VHDL,
> if you count hardware design languages). 

Not something I'd brag about either, being an Ada 95 and Verilog user.
VHDL truly *is* a committee designed language, and it shows. I think Ada 
is a much nicer language for the sort of "high level" modeling that VHDL
is supposedly good at than VHDL.

-- Brian

Re: Ada-like language

[Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen]

Olivier Marcoux wrote:

> Hello all
>
> I'm searching a list of currently used Ada-like languages
> or Ada-derived languages having almost the same syntax as Ada
>
> Can you help me ? Or do you have web link to a presentation of such
> languages ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Olivier

  Are you thinking of Pascal-like languages?

That would include Eiffel, Pascal (UCSD Pascal, Pascal-s, concurrent
Pascal, Turbo Pascal, Delphi,  etc), Simula and Algol. Some might
include Modula-X and Oberon.

Greetings,

Re: Ada-like language

[TConiam]

>I think Oracle (the DB company) made a language (PSQL?) that is based on
>Ada. I'm not sure though...
>

Yes, Oracle has PL/SQL which is based on Ada and has SQL like extensions
including facilities to loop on the results of a SELECT as well as all the DDL,
and DML.  It even includes exception handling for database events.  

It is used for programming database triggers (event handling) and for general
purpose database scripts.

I have even written a crude message parser in it.

Re: Ada-like language

[Christopher Martin]

Olivier Marcoux wrote in message <3366D07E.C1E62BDE@polymtl.ca>...
>Hello all
>
>I'm searching a list of currently used Ada-like languages
>or Ada-derived languages having almost the same syntax as Ada
>
>Can you help me ? Or do you have web link to a presentation of such
>languages ?
>
>Thanks
>
>Olivier
>
>

Two other languages that have Ada-like constructs to them are 'Mesa' and
'Cedar'.
These were developed at least in part at Xerox PARC. I haven't run across
any
good web resources for these. Nor do I know if they are currently used.

CGM

Re: Ada-like language

[x]

In article <19990417221639.10903.00002108@ng03.aol.com>, tconiam@aol.com (TConiam) wrote:
>>I think Oracle (the DB company) made a language (PSQL?) that is based on
>>Ada. I'm not sure though...
>>
>
>Yes, Oracle has PL/SQL which is based on Ada and has SQL like extensions
>including facilities to loop on the results of a SELECT as well as all the DDL,
>and DML.  It even includes exception handling for database events.  
>
>It is used for programming database triggers (event handling) and for general
>purpose database scripts.
>
>I have even written a crude message parser in it.

If I could add something to this...

PL/SQL does share a lot of syntax with Ada (even packages and block 
structure), but the similarity ends there.  Where Ada is a very strongly typed 
language, PL/SQL is a (very) weakly typed language.  You can assign just about 
anything to anything else and freely mix and match types in expressions with 
nary a complaint from the 'compiler'.

That has bitten me more times than I care to admit.  It's too bad Oracle 
didn't implement the philosophy of Ada along with the syntax.

Re: Ada-like language

[Stephen Burke VG2 3370]

"Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen" wrote:
> 
> Olivier Marcoux wrote:
> 

>   Are you thinking of Pascal-like languages?
> 
> That would include Eiffel, Pascal (UCSD Pascal, Pascal-s, concurrent
> Pascal, Turbo Pascal, Delphi,  etc), Simula and Algol. Some might
> include Modula-X and Oberon.
also Add CHILL (CCITT High Level Language)
> 
> Greetings,

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Re: Ada-like language

[No Spam]

I believe VHSIC Hardware Description Language, or VHDL, is derived from Ada.

Olivier Marcoux wrote in message <3366D07E.C1E62BDE@polymtl.ca>...
>Hello all
>
>I'm searching a list of currently used Ada-like languages
>or Ada-derived languages having almost the same syntax as Ada
>

Re: Ada-like language

[Nick Roberts]

There is ACE (Ada Command Environment), a command shell with a syntax based
on Ada.  I'm not sure of a URL, but it is being developed under the STARS
project.

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Re: Ada-like language

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>
>
>Olivier Marcoux wrote:
>
>> Hello all
>>
>> I'm searching a list of currently used Ada-like languages
>> or Ada-derived languages having almost the same syntax as Ada
>>
>> Can you help me ? Or do you have web link to a presentation of such
>> languages ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Olivier
>
>  Are you thinking of Pascal-like languages?
>
>That would include Eiffel, Pascal (UCSD Pascal, Pascal-s, concurrent

Eiffel is certainly not a Pascal-like language !

Pascal.