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From: dennison@telepath.com
Subject: Re: Printing Enum Variable Re: Linux World
Date: 1999/03/10
Date: 1999-03-10T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7c63lf$qg2$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dale-1003991644340001@r1021c-07.ppp.cs.rmit.edu.au

In article <dale-1003991644340001@r1021c-07.ppp.cs.rmit.edu.au>,
  dale@cs.rmit.edu.au (Dale Stanbrough) wrote:

> Another thing you could do (it worked for the U.S. Navy!)
> is to realise it is easier to seek forgiveness than permission.
> Write your software in Ada anyway, and then give it to them
> as a completed work! (mind you if i was a manager and you did
> this to me i'ld be inclined to sack you :-).

Several years ago I actually did that on a one man job. But there wasn't much
they could say to me, since the user was a DoD entity. They didn't really care
anyway, as this was one of those "just get it done" jobs. Plus, I turned it in
more than a week early and significantly under budget (they planned on several
"at site" weeks for debugging, that I didn't need at all). There really wasn't
anything for management to complain about.

The "educational use only" public version of gnat is particularly handy for
such situations. :-)

On a more serious note, I should mention here that not only are those "at
site" debugging weeks expensive to a company's immediate bottom line, they
can have a insidious impact as well.  I had one friend whose marrige broke up
as a result of a several month "at site" stint trying to debug networked C
and Fortran code, and another (with young 5 kids) whose almost broke up.
Needless to say, the company didn't get much productive work out of either
for several months while they tried to straighten out their personal lives.

So I add "family friendly" to my personal list of Ada adjectives.

T.E.D.

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  reply	other threads:[~1999-03-10  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-03-02  0:00 Linux World Richard D Riehle
1999-03-02  0:00 ` fraser
1999-03-02  0:00   ` Printing Enum Variable " David Starner
1999-03-03  0:00     ` fraser
1999-03-03  0:00       ` David Starner
1999-03-03  0:00         ` Samuel T. Harris
1999-03-03  0:00         ` fraser
1999-03-04  0:00         ` dennison
1999-03-04  0:00           ` Ehud Lamm
1999-03-04  0:00         ` robert_dewar
1999-03-03  0:00           ` David Starner
1999-03-04  0:00             ` robert_dewar
1999-03-04  0:00             ` Samuel Mize
1999-03-04  0:00               ` Samuel Mize
1999-03-05  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1999-03-05  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
1999-03-07  0:00               ` Florian Weimer
1999-03-07  0:00                 ` Michael Young
1999-03-07  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-07  0:00                     ` Michael Young
1999-03-08  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-08  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-03-08  0:00                       ` Florian Weimer
1999-03-08  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-03-08  0:00                         ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-09  0:00                           ` Michael Young
1999-03-09  0:00                             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-09  0:00                               ` Michael Young
1999-03-10  0:00                                 ` Mike Silva
1999-03-09  0:00                               ` billy
1999-03-10  0:00                                 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-10  0:00                                   ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-03-10  0:00                                     ` dennison [this message]
1999-03-10  0:00                                       ` bob
1999-03-10  0:00                                         ` Mike Silva
1999-03-10  0:00                                           ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-10  0:00                                           ` dennison
1999-03-10  0:00                                     ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-10  0:00                                     ` Pascal Obry
1999-03-10  0:00                                 ` Pascal Obry
     [not found]                               ` <7 <7c58qa$b6b$1@cf01.edf.fr>
1999-03-10  0:00                                 ` fraser
     [not found]                               ` <7c4ru6$e45$1@remarq.com>
1999-03-10  0:00                                 ` fraser
     [not found]                             ` <1999Mar9.131659. <dale-1003991644340001@r1021c-07.ppp.cs.rmit.edu.au>
1999-03-10  0:00                               ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-07  0:00                   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-08  0:00                     ` Michael Young
1999-03-08  0:00                       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-04  0:00           ` Ehud Lamm
1999-03-05  0:00             ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-05  0:00               ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-06  0:00                 ` Ehud Lamm
1999-03-06  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-03-06  0:00                     ` Ehud Lamm
1999-03-06  0:00                     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-06  0:00                       ` Dave Taylor
1999-03-06  0:00                         ` Bruce or Tracy
1999-03-03  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-03  0:00       ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-03  0:00         ` David Starner
1999-03-03  0:00     ` Fraser Wilson
1999-03-03  0:00       ` David Starner
1999-03-04  0:00         ` fraser
1999-03-05  0:00           ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-05  0:00             ` fraser
1999-03-04  0:00         ` Magnus Larsson
1999-03-03  0:00           ` Printing Enum Variable Re: Linux World (Correction) Hans Marqvardsen
1999-03-03  0:00           ` Printing Enum Variable Re: Linux World Hans Marqvardsen
1999-03-04  0:00             ` robert_dewar
1999-03-04  0:00               ` Hans Marqvardsen
1999-03-05  0:00                 ` dewar
1999-03-07  0:00                   ` Hans Marqvardsen
1999-03-04  0:00               ` Hans Marqvardsen
1999-03-05  0:00                 ` dewar
1999-03-05  0:00                   ` David Botton
1999-03-05  0:00                     ` robert_dewar
1999-03-05  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-04  0:00             ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-04  0:00         ` Richard D Riehle
1999-03-04  0:00         ` robert_dewar
1999-03-04  0:00         ` Richard D Riehle
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