From: Samuel Mize <smize@imagin.net>
Subject: Re: Can't export object of private type
Date: 1999/03/03
Date: 1999-03-03T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7bjihr$25t7@news1.newsguy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: F7zzxE.6sp@syd.csa.com.au
Don Harrison <nospam@thanks.com.au> wrote:
> Matt Heaney wrote:
> :If you know up front how many "instances" of an abstraction you have
> :--what I call the "well-known objects" pattern-- then a state machine
> :package is probably the way to go.
>
> Partitioning objects into "well-known" and less-well-known :) will always
> be somewhat arbitrary.
Perhaps a clearer term would be "enumerable" if this kind of confusion is
going to occur. It doesn't seem arbitrary to me that either you can list
all the objects up front, by their nature, like the planets -- or not.
>However, in the context of non-pure OOPLs (such as
> Ada), you're probably right in suggesting it's worth distinguishing between
> single-fixed-variant (your "well-known") objects and more general ones.
> The additional flexibility gained in declaring an explicit derivable type
> is a waste of time if future variants are unlikely.
Is it not a waste of time in an OOPL, or is it not possible to avoid
doing it in an OOPL? (That sounds confrontational and I apologize, but
I can't think of a better way to phrase it.)
> :In a typical Ada application, some abstractions are implemented as state
> :machine packages, and some abstractions are implemented as instances of
> :an abstract data type. There is nothing odd or unnatural about this.
>
> It's certainly idiomatic.
Does you mean this to counter Matt's statement? If a language forces you
to use just one or the other, you would, and that would be idiomatic too.
I'm not sure what you're trying to get across.
Best,
Sam Mize
--
Samuel Mize -- smize@imagin.net (home email) -- Team Ada
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1999-02-24 0:00 ` Can't export object of private type Don Harrison
1999-02-24 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-02-24 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1999-02-24 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-25 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-02-25 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1999-02-26 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-02-27 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-01 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-01 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-01 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-01 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-01 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-03 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-03 0:00 ` Samuel Mize [this message]
1999-03-04 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-07 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1999-03-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-03-04 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-04 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-02-28 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-01 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-02 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-01 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1999-02-25 0:00 ` fraser
1999-02-26 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-02-26 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1999-03-01 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-02 0:00 ` fraser
1999-03-03 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-02-26 0:00 ` fraser
1999-03-01 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
[not found] ` <7b6nqe$75m$1@remarq.com>
1999-02-26 0:00 ` fraser
1999-02-27 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-28 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-28 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-25 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-26 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-02-26 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-26 0:00 ` bourguet
1999-02-26 0:00 ` Samuel T. Harris
1999-02-27 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1999-02-27 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-02-28 0:00 ` dewar
1999-03-01 0:00 ` bourguet
1999-02-26 0:00 ` dennison
1999-03-01 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1999-03-01 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-01 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-03 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-03 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-27 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-03-01 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-28 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-01 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-03-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-02 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-03-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-02 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-03-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-02 0:00 ` nabbasi
1999-03-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-03 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-03 0:00 ` Single Extension; Polymorphic Arrays Nick Roberts
1999-03-03 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-08 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-08 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
[not found] ` <m3ogm40wav.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1999-03-08 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-08 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-03-08 0:00 ` dennison
1999-03-09 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-08 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-03 0:00 ` Can't export object of private type Don Harrison
1999-03-03 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-03 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-04 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-04 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-04 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-05 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-05 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-03-05 0:00 ` Abstract Subprograms of Untagged Types Nick Roberts
1999-03-05 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-03-05 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-06 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-05 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-04 0:00 ` Can't export object of private type Nick Roberts
1999-03-08 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-09 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-09 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-10 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-10 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-04 0:00 ` fraser
1999-03-09 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-08 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-08 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-03-08 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-10 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-10 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-03-10 0:00 ` dennison
1999-03-10 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1999-03-10 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-10 0:00 ` dennison
1999-03-11 0:00 ` dennison
1999-03-10 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-10 0:00 ` dennison
1999-03-10 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-10 0:00 ` dennison
1999-03-11 0:00 ` bill
1999-03-11 0:00 ` dennison
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Scott Ingram
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-03-12 0:00 ` dewar
1999-03-11 0:00 ` dennison
1999-03-11 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-12 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-03-11 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-03-03 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1999-02-28 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-28 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
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