From: Ted Dennison<dennison@telepath.com>
Subject: Re: Ada The Best Language?
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 17:23:15 GMT
Date: 2001-07-24T17:23:15+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7ai77.5366$ar1.14942@www.newsranger.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 9j98pv$20vi$1@norfair.nerim.net
In article <9j98pv$20vi$1@norfair.nerim.net>, Bertrand Augereau says...
>
>I think if Ada software is better/cheaper to maintain, it is because more
>qualified people produce it and that's it.
That's certianly not what either of 2 seperate studies found wrt. Ada and C. The
Rational study found had personnel information available and found that the more
productive Ada code was *not* a result of the personnel used. The
SUNY-Plattsburgh study used undergrad students in a particular course, so the
only way you could make that claim would be to claim that students suddenly got
smarter the year that Ada was introduced (and stayed that way).
You could claim that C++ will indeed have no difference here because it is
better than C. But is it better enough? Is it better in all the important
places? The author of the Rational study suspected not (and said so right in the
study), but who knows for sure?
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2001-07-17 16:38 Ada The Best Language? codesavvy
2001-07-17 17:16 ` chris.danx
2001-07-17 21:35 ` JP
2001-07-18 12:04 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-18 13:13 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2001-07-18 15:03 ` OO Zealotry horror stories (was Re: Ada the Best Language) Marc A. Criley
2001-07-17 17:53 ` Ada The Best Language? Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-17 18:01 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-18 2:10 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 10:43 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-18 14:27 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-18 20:37 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 21:11 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-19 21:45 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 22:02 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-19 21:50 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 23:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-19 21:55 ` codesavvy
2001-07-21 8:39 ` Martin Dowie
2001-07-22 14:18 ` John R. Strohm
2001-07-23 6:13 `
2001-07-23 11:16 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-23 12:27 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-24 2:07 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-20 4:12 ` Adrian Hoe
2001-07-18 17:26 ` Darren New
2001-07-18 18:03 ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-18 20:51 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 21:03 ` David C. Hoos
2001-07-20 4:00 ` Adrian Hoe
2001-07-18 21:22 ` Darren New
2001-07-19 4:12 ` James Rogers
2001-07-19 8:59 ` Michal Nowak
2001-07-19 10:40 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-19 12:20 ` codesavvy
2001-07-21 18:20 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-07-22 3:55 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-07-18 21:08 ` Tucker Taft
2001-07-17 20:12 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-07-17 21:15 ` Gerhard Häring
2001-07-17 21:38 ` Paul Storm
2001-07-18 2:03 ` Tomasz Wegrzanowski
2001-07-18 9:28 ` Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-18 10:42 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-18 2:40 ` Beau
2001-07-18 10:35 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 11:27 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-07-18 18:28 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-07-18 21:00 ` codesavvy
2001-07-19 17:31 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-19 21:36 ` codesavvy
2001-07-24 3:22 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-25 0:11 ` David Bolen
2001-07-25 3:09 ` Recent Ada Information (was: zhttp://www.aceshardware.com/Spades/r Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-25 3:32 ` David Bolen
2001-07-25 4:53 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-25 10:50 ` Ada The Best Language? codesavvy
2001-07-25 16:04 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-25 21:49 ` codesavvy
2001-07-26 17:24 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-26 18:48 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-26 20:21 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-26 20:52 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-26 17:26 ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-25 19:39 ` tmoran
2001-07-27 0:35 ` David Bolen
2001-07-27 1:50 ` Gary Scott
2001-07-27 14:05 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-28 6:42 ` tmoran
2001-07-28 12:53 ` When correct software meets illegal data (was: Ada The Best...) Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-28 18:42 ` tmoran
2001-07-28 20:52 ` Al Christians
2001-07-28 21:42 ` tmoran
2001-07-30 1:53 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-28 5:32 ` Ada The Best Language? JM
2001-07-28 6:49 ` Gerhard Häring
2001-07-28 12:04 ` Matthew Woodcraft
2001-07-28 19:46 ` tmoran
2001-07-29 1:01 ` Gerhard Häring
2001-07-31 2:59 ` Tom Moran
2001-07-31 9:40 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-31 10:10 ` Preben Randhol
2001-07-26 13:22 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-20 11:20 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 12:56 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-20 13:18 ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-07-20 17:27 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-20 18:14 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 19:10 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-20 20:12 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 20:48 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-23 11:09 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-20 19:38 ` David C. Hoos
2001-07-22 13:13 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-22 20:35 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2001-07-22 21:12 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-22 22:34 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2001-07-23 7:41 ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-07-23 8:27 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-23 11:51 ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-07-23 12:06 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-24 1:57 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-26 22:31 ` Larry Elmore
2001-07-24 14:08 ` Pat Rogers
2001-07-24 14:29 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-24 14:49 ` Pat Rogers
2001-07-24 1:51 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-18 18:29 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 21:48 ` Hambut
2001-07-18 22:00 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-19 21:43 ` codesavvy
2001-07-19 7:45 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-07-18 11:55 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-18 15:49 ` Alfred Hilscher
2001-07-18 20:48 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 22:12 ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-18 23:22 ` chris.danx
2001-07-20 11:26 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 12:11 ` chris.danx
2001-07-20 12:43 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 17:37 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-24 16:52 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-24 16:59 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-24 18:25 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-25 10:19 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-25 18:53 ` Teergrubing (was: Ada The Best Language?) Ted Dennison
2001-07-24 20:14 ` Ada The Best Language? Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-24 21:11 ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-24 22:52 ` tmoran
2001-07-25 7:08 ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-25 7:45 ` tmoran
2001-07-25 15:44 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-25 20:39 ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-26 17:13 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-26 21:08 ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-25 4:03 ` Tomasz Wegrzanowski
2001-07-24 17:23 ` Ted Dennison [this message]
2001-07-20 12:14 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-20 12:32 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 12:39 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-20 13:28 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 14:19 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-20 15:39 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 15:47 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-20 16:55 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-23 11:05 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-23 19:42 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-07-19 10:43 ` Alfred Hilscher
2001-07-19 12:47 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-19 17:01 ` codesavvy
2001-07-21 12:53 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-23 19:26 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-07-18 15:05 ` McDoobie
2001-07-18 20:42 ` codesavvy
2001-07-21 15:38 ` Device drivers in Ada (was Re: Ada The Best Language?) Mark Lundquist
2001-07-21 19:09 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-21 15:31 ` Ada The Best Language? Mark Lundquist
2001-07-23 4:15 ` codesavvy
2001-07-23 7:26 ` Martin Dowie
2001-07-23 14:18 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-24 2:13 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
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2001-07-18 8:32 Vinzent Hoefler
2001-07-18 12:25 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-19 1:03 ` Mike Silva
2001-07-20 11:30 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 12:58 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-20 13:48 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 14:56 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-20 16:41 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-07-20 17:47 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-20 19:33 ` David C. Hoos
2001-07-20 17:19 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-20 18:18 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-08-06 8:13 ` stoog
2001-07-19 17:10 ` Tomasz Wegrzanowski
2001-07-20 13:31 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-20 16:46 ` Tomasz Wegrzanowski
2001-07-20 17:00 ` David C. Hoos
2001-08-04 6:04 ` David Thompson
2001-08-05 2:22 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-23 10:12 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-18 8:43 Vinzent Hoefler
2001-07-18 9:22 ` Gerhard Häring
2001-07-18 8:58 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-18 14:06 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 15:27 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-18 20:31 ` codesavvy
2001-07-18 21:29 ` Darren New
2001-07-18 21:56 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-19 3:37 ` Larry Hazel
2001-07-19 18:19 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-21 15:33 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-07-23 13:50 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-24 4:52 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-07-24 6:47 ` tmoran
2001-07-24 11:47 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-24 14:10 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-27 11:29 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2001-07-19 21:47 ` codesavvy
2001-07-21 2:51 ` DuckE
2001-07-21 3:46 ` Darren New
2001-07-26 1:39 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-07-19 13:12 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-19 17:11 ` codesavvy
2001-07-21 14:10 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-19 14:12 ` Leif Roar Moldskred
2001-07-19 16:58 ` codesavvy
2001-07-19 18:29 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-19 17:11 ` Tomasz Wegrzanowski
2001-07-19 18:33 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-19 20:49 ` Tomasz Wegrzanowski
2001-07-19 21:01 ` Darren New
2001-07-19 21:20 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-19 22:31 ` Tomasz Wegrzanowski
2001-07-19 23:04 ` Darren New
2001-07-19 23:36 ` Tomasz Wegrzanowski
2001-07-20 16:14 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-20 17:51 ` Darren New
2001-07-20 17:54 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-20 20:16 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-25 9:01 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2001-07-19 22:31 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-18 14:40 Re[2]: " ANH_VO
2001-07-26 1:53 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-07-19 0:15 Beard, Frank
2001-07-19 12:24 ` codesavvy
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2001-07-19 6:35 Vinzent Hoefler
2001-07-19 11:34 Vinzent Hoefler
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2001-07-27 20:22 Beard, Frank
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