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From: robert_dewar@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Re: should I be interested in ada?
Date: 1999/02/18
Date: 1999-02-18T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7ai4rb$5vn$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7aganu$qsc$1@plug.news.pipex.net

In article <7aganu$qsc$1@plug.news.pipex.net>,

> |I find it hard to believe that Nick knows Fortran-90 if
> |he writes such a claim.
>
> I'm afraid I must say that this strikes me as being a
> slightly unprofessional comment. May I suggest that
> comments as to the lack of knowledgeability of fellow
> usenet users are best made with a little greater
> caution?

Well I would say your examples still don't show anything
like the power of the aggregate facilities in Fortran which
far outstrip Ada's. If you know Fortran-90, then you know
that you can construct examples where the Fortran-90 code
is very nice, and the corresponding Ada, especially where
multi-dimensional arrays are involved, is very low level
and tortured.

Your set of examples seem to have been carefully
constructed to make the best case for Ada, but any Fortran
programmer will be able to demolish such arguments with
much more powerful examples.


> |It does not help Ada 95 to make bogus claims about it
> |on lack of knowledge of languages to which you are
> |comparing it. After all people are always doing this to
> |Ada, don't make the same mistake!
>
> Certainly true. I will endeavour not to make bogus
> claims, and hope that others will make a similar effort.

All I can say Nick, is that if you really DO know
Fortran-90 well, then you really are choosing examples
in a biased and unfair manner. I don't think this helps
Ada. I actually think my viewpoint that this must be from
lack of practical experience with Fortran-90 was a more
positive view. If you are really an experienced Fortran-90
programmer, then you should really not be making the claims
that you making!



>
> -------------------------------------
> Nick Roberts
>
> 'The time has come,' the Walrus said,
>   'To talk of many things:
> Of shoes--of ships--and sealing wax--
>   Of cabbages--and kings--
> And why the sea is boiling hot--
>   And whether pigs have wings.'
>                         Lewis Carroll
>           "Through the Looking Glass"
> -------------------------------------
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~1999-02-18  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-02-14  0:00 should I be interested in ada? Phillip Helbig
1999-02-15  0:00 ` Gautier
1999-02-15  0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-23  0:00   ` David Starner
1999-02-16  0:00 ` Ken Thomas
1999-02-17  0:00   ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-18  0:00     ` robert_dewar
1999-02-18  0:00       ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-18  0:00         ` William Clodius
1999-02-18  0:00           ` dennison
1999-02-18  0:00     ` robert_dewar
1999-02-18  0:00       ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-18  0:00         ` robert_dewar [this message]
1999-02-19  0:00           ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-19  0:00             ` robert_dewar
1999-02-19  0:00               ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-20  0:00                 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-20  0:00                   ` Steve Doiel
1999-02-20  0:00                 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-22  0:00                   ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-23  0:00                     ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-02-24  0:00                       ` White rabbit (was: should I be interested in ada?) dennison
1999-02-25  0:00                       ` Alice books " JP Thornley
1999-02-25  0:00                         ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-02-22  0:00                   ` should I be interested in ada? dennison
1999-02-19  0:00               ` William Clodius
1999-02-19  0:00               ` Phillip Helbig
1999-02-19  0:00               ` dennison
1999-02-19  0:00                 ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-20  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-22  0:00                     ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-19  0:00                 ` William Clodius
1999-02-19  0:00                 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-18  0:00         ` Jerry Petrey
1999-02-18  0:00           ` fraser
1999-02-19  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-20  0:00               ` fraser
1999-02-18  0:00           ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-18  0:00             ` Joel Seidman
1999-02-18  0:00             ` Dan Nagle
1999-02-18  0:00               ` nabbasi
1999-02-19  0:00               ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-19  0:00                 ` Dan Nagle
1999-02-19  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-19  0:00                     ` Dan Nagle
1999-02-19  0:00                     ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-23  0:00                     ` Peter Hermann
1999-02-19  0:00                 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-19  0:00                   ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-19  0:00                     ` William Clodius
1999-02-20  0:00                       ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-21  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-21  0:00                           ` William Clodius
1999-02-22  0:00                           ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-19  0:00                     ` robert_dewar
1999-02-21  0:00                       ` William Clodius
1999-02-23  0:00                         ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-02-18  0:00         ` William Clodius
1999-02-18  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-02-19  0:00             ` William Clodius
1999-02-19  0:00               ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-20  0:00                 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-22  0:00                   ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-22  0:00                     ` William Clodius
1999-02-23  0:00                     ` robert_dewar
1999-02-23  0:00                       ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-22  0:00                 ` William Clodius
1999-02-23  0:00                   ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-23  0:00                     ` William Clodius
1999-02-25  0:00                       ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-25  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-23  0:00               ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-02-24  0:00                 ` William Clodius
1999-02-24  0:00                 ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-26  0:00                   ` Robert A Duff
1999-02-27  0:00                     ` Semantic info pragmas (was: should I be interested in ada?) Nick Roberts
1999-03-01  0:00                       ` Samuel Tardieu
1999-03-01  0:00                         ` Robert A Duff
1999-02-24  0:00               ` should I be interested in ada? William Clodius
1999-02-25  0:00                 ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-25  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-26  0:00                     ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-18  0:00           ` nabbasi
1999-02-18  0:00             ` robert_dewar
1999-02-20  0:00 ` Hartmut H. Schaefer
1999-02-20  0:00   ` bill
1999-02-21  0:00     ` dewar
1999-02-21  0:00   ` dewar
1999-02-22  0:00     ` dennison
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