From: kevin@woldnospam.com
Subject: Re: US-MN-Mpls >>> Ada Software Engineers <<<
Date: 1999/02/15
Date: 1999-02-15T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7aablt$qqt@drn.newsguy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 36C8A705.597D432A@planet8.tds-eagan.lmco.com
In article <36C8A705.597D432A@planet8.tds-eagan.lmco.com>, Alan says...
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>I personally think chopping down trees is swell if it's done to make
>houses or even good-looking spice racks for people.
no, killing trees, even if Ada is used for this, is not good.
without trees, we all will die. becuase trees make O2, which we need
to breath. Also tree are pretty. It is bad to kill trees. Build your
house from steel or stone or concrete.
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>1. I am an Ada software engineer working for a large defense contractor;
Is there any other place an Ada programmer could work?
>3. I know for a fact that I make more as an Ada software engineer than
>I would as a C++ whatever, because I got offers in both;
It is obviouse if you work as an Ada programmer, sorry, "engineer",
you'll make more than C++, since people will pay you based on your
experience. But if you have 2 people with equal skills in Ada and C++,
the C++ programmer, will not only have more open opportunities to choose
from (and none of them to have to be to make software to kill people
and tree), but they'll make more money also.
>Supplement: I know that the term "Ada software engineer" is self-limiting,
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There is no such thing as "software engineers". There are good or bad
programmers. programming is not an engineering. it is a craft, an art, with
some learned skills and patterns, and with some intrinsic talents the person
must have for software. You can teach someone all the "Software engineerings"
courses in the world, and if they ain't got it, they'll never be able to
build good software.
keven
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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-02-10 0:00 US-MN-Mpls >>> Ada Software Engineers <<< SDC
1999-02-10 0:00 ` Bob
1999-02-10 0:00 ` Jerry Petrey
1999-02-10 0:00 ` Paul Whittington
1999-02-10 0:00 ` Steve Doiel
1999-02-11 0:00 ` fraser
[not found] ` <79v9f4$fe$1@remarq.com>
1999-02-11 0:00 ` fraser
1999-02-12 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-15 0:00 ` Alan Hohn
1999-02-15 0:00 ` kevin [this message]
1999-02-16 0:00 ` Ada jobs & Programming: Art or Science? [was: MN] Alan Hohn
1999-02-16 0:00 ` kevin
1999-02-16 0:00 ` Alan Hohn
1999-02-17 0:00 ` Ada jobs & " robert_dewar
1999-02-17 0:00 ` dennison
1999-02-18 0:00 ` Michael Stark
1999-02-18 0:00 ` dennison
1999-02-17 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1999-02-16 0:00 ` US-MN-Mpls >>> Ada Software Engineers <<< Scott Ingram
1999-02-16 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-02-16 0:00 ` dennison
1999-02-16 0:00 ` What Ada's used for (was: US-MN-Mpls >>> Ada Software Engineers <<<) dennison
1999-02-15 0:00 ` US-MN-Mpls >>> Ada Software Engineers <<< fraser
1999-02-10 0:00 ` bkwposx
1999-02-10 0:00 ` Steve O'Neill
1999-02-10 0:00 ` David Emery
1999-02-10 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-10 0:00 ` Dino Gianisis
1999-02-10 0:00 ` kevin
1999-02-11 0:00 ` Jerry Petrey
1999-02-11 0:00 ` kevin
1999-02-12 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-12 0:00 ` kevin
1999-02-12 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-13 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1999-02-12 0:00 ` Gautier
1999-02-14 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-12 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-13 0:00 ` whiter5195
1999-02-11 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-11 0:00 ` Andrzej Lewandowski
1999-02-11 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-11 0:00 ` Mike Silva
1999-02-11 0:00 ` dennison
1999-02-11 0:00 ` Mike Silva
1999-02-11 0:00 ` Dalen Kruse
1999-02-10 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-10 0:00 ` dennison
1999-02-11 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-02-11 0:00 ` Dr Steve Sangwine
1999-02-11 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-02-12 0:00 ` Gautier
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