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From: "Stephane Richard" <stephane.richard@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Ada Advocacy.
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 22:28:19 GMT
Date: 2003-08-26T22:28:19+00:00	[thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: pan.2003.08.26.21.20.35.693597@__n_o_s_p_a_m__abyss2.demon.co.uk

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"Luke A. Guest" <laguest@__n_o_s_p_a_m__abyss2.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.08.26.21.20.35.693597@__n_o_s_p_a_m__abyss2.demon.co.uk...
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 20:33:29 +0000, Stephane Richard wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > In the goal to boost the Ada  programming language, along with the
making of
> > my website, I'm looking for either documents, or links to comparisons
> > between ada and other languages, description of Ada features that set it
> > apart from other languages, basically any kind of PR there is out there
> > about Ada.
>
> Not an URL, but something that I and other programmers have always wanted
> to do in C/C++/etc. but cannot is the printing of names of variables ;-)
>
> That's a damn nice debugging feature. It's been a while but I think it's
> something like
>
> declare
> test : Integer := 5;
> begin
> -- I'm really unsure about the overloaded + operator here, like I said
> -- it's been a while (around 6 years!)
> Write test'Name + " = " + test;
> end
>
> should send "test = 5" to the console.
>
> Something like that anyway ;-P Try doing that in C/C++ without a lookup
> table :-(
>
> Another thing that's really useful is being able to declare the range of,
> say, an integer variable - and with bounds checking it gets caught at
> compile & runtime (depending on whether it's accessed with a constant or
> not).
>
> The only downside to Ada is the amount of work that has to go into a
> simple program just to dump out some text (not very good for beginners) to
> the console.
>
> Also meaningful names negates the need for the absolutely disgusting
> hungarian notation.
>
> I loved Ada at university and I'm really surprised that it's still not
> really used as much as it should be.
>
> Luke.
>
Excellent input Luke,

Indeed, a language like Ada should be used alot more than what I'm seeing
today.  It's part of the goal of the website I'm creating, to promote Ada,.
so all the good sides like those you mentionned here are excellent points.
Oh and as for that one downside.  I dont recall ever reading anywhere that C
and C++ were a "beginner's" language ;-).

Even if things have changed today and they teach C/C++ in computer schools,
me I learned on Pascal, and the structure you needed to have in Pascal made
for very readable code.  Ada being a superset of Pascal, takes this easy
maintainability aspect of Pascal to the next level.  Making projects tha
much more easier to read and maintain.  It's definitaly not as cryptic as C
and C++ have the potential to be (believe me, I've seen C code that almost
made me wanna give up some important parts of my anatomy. ;-).  Since Ada
has a somewhat predefined if you will structure like you say, if the
variables are named reasonability clear, then it only makes the whole code
that much clearer and quicker to maintain.

Thanks again for the input.....and if, in the course of time, something else
pops in your head, let me know :-)....you and anyone else :-)...even little
things like what Luke said are quite important advantages to Ada.


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Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-26 20:33 Ada Advocacy Stephane Richard
2003-08-26 21:20 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-26 22:28   ` Stephane Richard [this message]
2003-08-26 23:04     ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-27 16:15       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-27 23:06         ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-28 10:39           ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-26 23:55   ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-27  0:44   ` Anisimkov
2003-08-27  8:26     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-08-27 20:12       ` Wes Groleau
2003-08-27 23:09         ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-29 16:13           ` Jon S. Anthony
2003-08-29 18:15             ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-28  8:34         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-08-27  8:29     ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-28  5:29       ` Dmitriy Anisimkov
2003-09-01 21:26   ` Dave Thompson
2003-08-27  6:56 ` David Holm
2003-08-27 16:00 ` Rod Chapman
2003-08-29  6:38 ` Adrian Hoe
2003-08-29  9:34   ` Stephane Richard
2003-09-01  5:45     ` Adrian Hoe
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2012-03-20 12:54 Ada advocacy tonyg
2012-03-20 13:54 ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-03-20 14:39 ` Marc C
2012-03-20 15:13   ` Ludovic Brenta
2012-03-20 16:34     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-03-20 16:35       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-03-20 20:06   ` Shark8
2012-03-20 15:42 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-03-20 18:31 ` Jeffrey Carter
2012-03-20 21:42 ` anon
2012-03-20 23:05   ` Shark8
2012-03-21  0:32 ` Shark8
2012-03-21  1:58 ` Robert Love
2012-03-21  5:37   ` Per Sandberg
2012-03-25 11:10     ` Peter C. Chapin
2012-03-21  8:59   ` anon
2013-06-17 23:42     ` johannes falcone
2013-06-18  0:09       ` tmoran
2013-06-18  0:14     ` Leo Brewin
2013-06-18  0:59       ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-06-19 19:22         ` johannes falcone
2013-06-19 19:34           ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-06-19 20:16             ` Shark8
2013-06-19 19:36           ` Ludovic Brenta
2013-08-30  7:36             ` johannes falcone
2013-06-18  1:28       ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-06-18  5:55         ` Peter Brooks
2013-06-18 17:15           ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-18 17:43             ` Bill Findlay
2013-06-18 19:22               ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-18 19:30                 ` Bill Findlay
2013-08-27 13:34             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-27 14:08               ` Bill Findlay
2013-08-27 14:13                 ` Bill Findlay
2013-08-27 21:25               ` J-P. Rosen
2013-08-28  7:45                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-27 22:42               ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-08-28  7:45               ` Maciej Sobczak
2013-08-28  8:58                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-08-28  9:42                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-28 11:42                     ` G.B.
2013-08-28 11:59                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-28 12:49                         ` G.B.
2013-08-28 14:07                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-28 15:06                             ` Eryndlia Mavourneen
2013-08-28 17:30                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-28 16:44                       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-28 17:25                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-28 23:33                           ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-08-29  7:15                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-29 14:47                           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-29 19:15                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-29 15:28               ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-29 21:43                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2013-08-30 23:52                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-08-31  0:05                     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2013-08-31  1:42                       ` Shark8
2013-08-31  2:57                       ` Shark8
2013-08-31  9:00                         ` Dirk Craeynest
2013-08-31  1:48                   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-09-02  7:13                   ` Egil H H
2013-09-02  8:41                     ` G.B.
2013-09-02 16:37                       ` Egil H H
2013-08-29 15:46               ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-30  4:47                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2013-08-30 16:54                   ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-30 17:49                     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2013-08-30 22:41                       ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-31  0:02                         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2013-08-31 14:47                           ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-19  7:29           ` nevillednz
2013-08-27 13:39             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-09-02 18:45           ` Martin
2013-06-17 23:39   ` johannes falcone
2012-03-21 10:44 ` tonyg
2013-06-18  0:07   ` johannes falcone
2012-03-23 16:13 ` KK6GM
2013-06-13 15:33 ` david
2013-06-13 15:34 ` david
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