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From: robert_dewar@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Re: US-MN-Mpls >>> Ada Software Engineers <<<
Date: 1999/02/12
Date: 1999-02-12T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7a1ce9$4l2$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 79tk4j$cqf@drn.newsguy.com

In article <79tk4j$cqf@drn.newsguy.com>,
  kevin@nospamworld.com wrote:

> Actually, Ada programmers make less than C++ or Java or
> even C.

Reading this first sentence, it sounds dubious since it
cites no reliable source.

> You don't have to believe me, just go to
> http://www.dice.com, search
> for Ada as key word, you'll see about 30 or so positions,
> with less pay than
> C/C++/Java/Unix positions. (If you search for C++ you'll
> get 100's of
> positions).

Ah and now we see that indeed the source of information
is completely useless. These listings give no idea of
what real pay levels look like in the general industry.
Anyone who believes they do is operating under severe
misconceptions!
>
> When I last was looking for a position, calling the Ada
> work agents listed, they would be shocked if I mentioned
> a rate over $50/hr. Yet, calling the
> C++ agents, and asking for $80-$100/hr was not even
> questioned, and many  positions would be happy to pay
> that for the right person.>

There are many Ada programmers making very good salaries,
and many C and C++ programmers not making much at all. As
usual things depend on skills and requirements. Clearly
your Ada skills did not qualify you for the high paying
Ada jobs. It is certainly the case that really skilled
Ada programmers can do well for themselves these days!

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  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-02-12  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-02-10  0:00 US-MN-Mpls >>> Ada Software Engineers <<< SDC
1999-02-10  0:00 ` Bob
1999-02-10  0:00   ` dennison
1999-02-10  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-10  0:00   ` David Emery
1999-02-10  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-10  0:00     ` Dino Gianisis
1999-02-10  0:00       ` kevin
1999-02-11  0:00         ` Jerry Petrey
1999-02-11  0:00           ` kevin
1999-02-12  0:00             ` robert_dewar
1999-02-12  0:00               ` kevin
1999-02-12  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-13  0:00                   ` Jerry van Dijk
1999-02-12  0:00                 ` Gautier
1999-02-14  0:00                 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-12  0:00         ` robert_dewar [this message]
1999-02-13  0:00           ` whiter5195
1999-02-11  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-11  0:00         ` Andrzej Lewandowski
1999-02-11  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-11  0:00             ` Mike Silva
1999-02-11  0:00         ` dennison
1999-02-11  0:00       ` Mike Silva
1999-02-11  0:00     ` Dalen Kruse
1999-02-10  0:00   ` bkwposx
1999-02-10  0:00   ` Steve O'Neill
1999-02-10  0:00   ` Steve Doiel
1999-02-11  0:00     ` fraser
     [not found]     ` <79v9f4$fe$1@remarq.com>
1999-02-11  0:00       ` fraser
1999-02-12  0:00         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-15  0:00           ` fraser
1999-02-15  0:00           ` Alan Hohn
1999-02-15  0:00             ` kevin
1999-02-16  0:00               ` Scott Ingram
1999-02-16  0:00               ` Tom Moran
1999-02-16  0:00               ` Ada jobs & Programming: Art or Science? [was: MN] Alan Hohn
1999-02-16  0:00                 ` kevin
1999-02-16  0:00                   ` Alan Hohn
1999-02-17  0:00                   ` Ada jobs & " robert_dewar
1999-02-17  0:00                     ` dennison
1999-02-18  0:00                       ` Michael Stark
1999-02-18  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-02-17  0:00                   ` Jerry van Dijk
1999-02-16  0:00               ` US-MN-Mpls >>> Ada Software Engineers <<< dennison
1999-02-16  0:00             ` What Ada's used for (was: US-MN-Mpls >>> Ada Software Engineers <<<) dennison
1999-02-10  0:00   ` US-MN-Mpls >>> Ada Software Engineers <<< Paul Whittington
1999-02-10  0:00   ` Jerry Petrey
1999-02-11  0:00   ` Dr Steve Sangwine
1999-02-11  0:00     ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-02-11  0:00   ` Tom Moran
1999-02-12  0:00   ` Gautier
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