From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)
Subject: Re: Paranoia about .NET (still): Rant! (was) Development process in the Ada community
Date: 19 Apr 2002 22:00:08 -0500
Date: 2002-04-19T22:00:08-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7SMrEaaH$VWA@eisner.encompasserve.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: i661cuklbc689igifq22srkt101847die8@4ax.com
In article <i661cuklbc689igifq22srkt101847die8@4ax.com>, rc211v <rc211v@attglobal.net> writes:
> On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 18:35:28 +0000 (UTC), "Kent Paul Dolan"
> <xanthian@well.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Java is by design OS
>>independent, contributing to breaking the stranglehold of MS-Windows on
>>the market of "things needed to run applications".
>
> Java is _by_design_ a marketing product in search of a real problem to
> solve.
Java is _by_design_ a programming language intended to be safer
than C. Two years ago Sun's Chief Technology Officer spoke at
the RSA Conference and pointed out that the bytecode engine and
web stuff was not the original reason Sun was interested in Java.
The write-once, debug-everywhere approach stems only from that
latter use of Java, having not much to do with native compiled
Java.
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2002-04-10 16:33 Development process in the Ada community Michael Erdmann
2002-04-10 23:28 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-11 4:53 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-11 7:34 ` Petter Fryklund
2002-04-11 16:39 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-11 8:37 ` Eric G. Miller
2002-04-11 13:27 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-12 12:33 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-12 12:56 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-12 23:59 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-11 17:26 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-11 10:41 ` Martin Dowie
2002-04-11 16:50 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-11 18:21 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-12 4:43 ` tmoran
2002-04-12 11:13 ` Claw thick bindings to sockets (was: Development process in the Ada..) Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-12 17:22 ` tmoran
2002-04-12 21:24 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-12 23:18 ` tmoran
2002-04-12 23:19 ` Development process in the Ada community tony
2002-04-12 23:52 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-15 14:35 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-11 20:26 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-11 12:38 ` Jim Rogers
2002-04-11 16:48 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-11 18:09 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-11 18:26 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-11 21:05 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-11 22:26 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-12 13:13 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-15 14:28 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-15 17:53 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-12 8:35 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-12 14:37 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-12 15:44 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-11 21:14 ` Rant! (was) " Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-11 23:20 ` tony
2002-04-12 0:55 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-04-12 1:21 ` Pat Rogers
2002-04-12 15:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-12 22:20 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-04-12 21:02 ` --off topic " tony
2002-04-12 23:52 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-04-14 10:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-14 22:17 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-04-12 14:57 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-12 23:12 ` tony
2002-04-12 10:10 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-12 11:11 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-12 23:18 ` tmoran
2002-04-12 17:22 ` Florian Weimer
2002-04-12 17:38 ` Mário Amado Alves
2002-04-12 18:29 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-13 3:30 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-13 10:12 ` martin.m.dowie
2002-04-13 13:21 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-13 13:39 ` martin.m.dowie
2002-04-13 14:12 ` Gary Scott
2002-04-13 14:20 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-13 16:03 ` martin.m.dowie
2002-04-15 15:03 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-16 8:30 ` Frank
2002-04-21 11:35 ` Michal Nowak
2002-04-16 15:43 ` martin.m.dowie
2002-04-16 16:53 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-17 6:16 ` martin.m.dowie
2002-04-17 12:55 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-17 7:50 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-17 12:01 ` Gary Scott
2002-04-17 13:29 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-17 18:40 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 15:02 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 15:28 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-17 13:29 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-17 19:31 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-04-18 14:15 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 18:35 ` Paranoia about .NET (still): " Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-18 21:43 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-19 11:49 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-19 23:34 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-19 23:14 ` rc211v
2002-04-20 3:00 ` Larry Kilgallen [this message]
2002-04-23 17:27 ` Wish List : Ada95 to FOX Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-04-23 19:24 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-23 19:30 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-26 22:06 ` rc211v
2002-04-24 0:00 ` Jeffrey Carter
[not found] ` <3CC5997E.4 <3CC5F5B0.DBC6A6B8@boeing.com>
2002-04-24 8:47 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2002-04-24 15:15 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-16 1:41 ` Rant! (was) Development process in the Ada community Richard Riehle
2002-04-16 19:40 ` [OT] MS vs Linux vs who in the student heart? (still mostly): " Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-17 2:09 ` Adrian Hoe
2002-04-12 21:17 ` Wes Groleau
2002-04-13 0:23 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-13 22:07 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-14 8:01 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-14 10:24 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-14 10:26 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-14 11:41 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-14 12:48 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-14 13:42 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-17 3:13 ` Richard Riehle
2002-04-17 13:19 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-14 14:44 ` Gary Scott
2002-04-14 15:44 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-14 15:54 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-14 16:33 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-14 21:46 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-15 15:39 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-16 16:34 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-16 17:28 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-17 17:02 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-17 21:09 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-17 21:25 ` Darren New
2002-04-17 23:14 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-17 23:24 ` Darren New
2002-04-18 4:34 ` Eric G. Miller
2002-04-18 14:08 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 18:34 ` Al Reynolds
2002-04-18 19:15 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-18 20:03 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-18 20:45 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-18 4:42 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-18 13:16 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-18 13:54 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 18:25 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-18 19:05 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-18 21:41 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 17:12 ` Pascal Obry
2002-04-15 15:11 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-15 15:28 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-16 16:53 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-16 17:49 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-16 17:57 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-18 14:04 ` Bill Tate
2002-04-18 14:45 ` Gary Scott
2002-04-18 20:12 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-18 20:09 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-13 0:59 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-13 7:38 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-13 7:46 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-13 13:24 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-13 16:01 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-13 17:18 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-13 19:02 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-13 21:34 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-14 8:28 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-14 16:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-13 22:24 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-14 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-15 3:03 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-14 3:04 ` Gary Scott
2002-04-15 3:00 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-16 2:37 ` Gary Scott
2002-04-14 8:51 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-14 9:52 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-14 10:37 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-14 11:50 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-14 20:41 ` tmoran
2002-04-15 14:45 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-15 15:59 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-15 19:45 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-17 16:29 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-17 22:30 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-21 5:56 ` David Botton
2002-04-21 7:13 ` tmoran
2002-04-21 21:14 ` David Botton
2002-04-22 21:46 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-23 4:47 ` GPL and the big picture (was Re: Development process in the Ada community) David Botton
2002-04-23 5:11 ` David Botton
2002-04-24 19:52 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-21 11:02 ` Development process in the Ada community Adrian Hoe
2002-04-21 21:21 ` David Botton
2002-04-15 22:02 ` tmoran
2002-04-17 16:55 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-17 17:15 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-17 18:01 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-18 19:22 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-21 5:35 ` David Botton
2002-04-21 5:34 ` David Botton
2002-04-18 5:12 ` Eric G. Miller
2002-04-18 13:31 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-19 2:50 ` Eric G. Miller
2002-04-21 5:33 ` David Botton
2002-04-17 3:25 ` Richard Riehle
2002-04-17 5:07 ` Open Source: in conflict with the development process in the Ada community? Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-17 10:14 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-04-17 13:20 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-17 14:06 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-19 14:20 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-19 16:04 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-22 13:44 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-19 23:48 ` How Open Source software developers pay the bills, from within a successful such operation (was): " Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-20 16:41 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-20 18:08 ` Florian Weimer
2002-04-21 0:38 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-21 1:44 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-22 16:06 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-23 12:44 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-23 20:48 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-23 23:50 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-04-20 6:28 ` tmoran
2002-04-20 6:53 ` Florian Weimer
2002-04-20 11:53 ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-04-20 13:14 ` Florian Weimer
2002-04-20 14:50 ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-04-21 11:13 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-21 21:23 ` Darren New
2002-04-22 13:42 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-22 16:11 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 16:07 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-17 13:53 ` Development process in the Ada community Marin David Condic
2002-04-18 14:50 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-18 15:43 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-19 5:23 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-22 15:41 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-17 17:58 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-17 20:39 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-17 20:54 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-18 15:43 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-17 22:18 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-18 15:39 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-19 3:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-20 5:56 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-20 16:30 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-20 18:31 ` tmoran
2002-04-20 21:32 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-22 0:30 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-22 13:40 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-22 14:27 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-22 17:40 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-22 17:48 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-21 0:57 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-21 5:23 ` tmoran
2002-04-21 15:59 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-21 17:47 ` tmoran
2002-04-21 1:03 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-21 9:07 ` Florian Weimer
2002-04-22 15:11 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-23 15:38 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-04-23 16:03 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 19:41 ` tmoran
2002-04-21 0:28 ` Richard Riehle
2002-04-21 0:33 ` Jason King
2002-04-22 15:22 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-23 4:09 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-23 5:30 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-26 18:25 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-29 14:44 ` Shared generics Hyman Rosen
2002-04-29 19:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-23 13:28 ` Development process in the Ada community Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 21:16 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-15 17:19 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-17 18:09 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-17 20:42 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-16 8:29 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-16 13:31 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-16 17:46 ` tmoran
2002-04-17 3:34 ` Richard Riehle
2002-04-17 12:11 ` John English
2002-04-15 16:29 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-16 11:28 ` Martin Dowie
2002-04-16 13:38 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-17 18:36 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-17 20:14 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-18 16:00 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 17:32 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-04-18 17:48 ` Grace and Maps (was Re: Development process in the Ada community) Marin David Condic
2002-04-19 13:29 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-19 14:23 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 13:42 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-20 19:54 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-22 13:21 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 19:12 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-04-22 13:40 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 19:49 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-21 1:33 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-21 5:49 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-21 8:55 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-04-21 18:49 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-21 20:17 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-22 0:36 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-22 5:20 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-22 13:34 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-22 16:16 ` Darren New
2002-04-22 22:31 ` Jeffrey Carter
[not found] ` <4519e058.0204220534.2eb33730@posting.go <3CC48F34.5A474E0F@boeing.com>
2002-04-22 23:26 ` Darren New
2002-04-23 2:15 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-04-23 4:57 ` Darren New
2002-04-23 7:10 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-23 14:52 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-23 19:08 ` Darren New
2002-04-24 12:22 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-24 13:53 ` Darren New
2002-04-24 15:02 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-24 15:25 ` Darren New
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2002-04-24 19:32 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-24 19:58 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-24 19:14 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-04-24 20:01 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-24 20:09 ` Darren New
2002-04-23 12:49 ` Alan Reynolds
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2002-04-23 18:55 ` Alan Reynolds
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2002-04-23 2:38 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-23 18:57 ` Anders Gidenstam
2002-04-23 2:32 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-23 23:46 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-04-24 15:01 ` Darren New
[not found] ` <4519e058.0204220534.2eb33730@posting.go <3CC4E9DA.E02BE0DA@san.rr.com>
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2002-04-23 22:33 ` David Bolen
2002-04-24 6:42 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
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2002-04-25 7:40 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2002-04-25 22:23 ` David Bolen
2002-04-24 17:25 ` Jeffrey Carter
[not found] ` <4519e058.0204220534.2eb33730@posting.go <3CC6EA85.CA2735B2@boeing.com>
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2002-04-25 0:11 ` Darren New
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[not found] ` <4519e058.0204220534.2eb33730@posting.go <3CC5B161.C719C5D8@san.rr.com>
2002-04-26 5:27 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-22 13:31 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-22 14:15 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-22 23:59 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-22 14:37 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-22 18:44 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-23 2:18 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-23 14:46 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-23 17:50 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-04-23 18:27 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-24 14:20 ` John English
2002-04-24 15:05 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-26 5:41 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-23 18:59 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-23 19:13 ` Darren New
2002-04-23 19:26 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-23 19:44 ` Darren New
2002-04-24 16:49 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-24 17:10 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-25 12:30 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-25 13:35 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-27 8:57 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-29 14:57 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-29 15:07 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-04-29 15:10 ` Darren New
2002-04-25 16:44 ` Darren New
2002-04-25 17:05 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-26 16:31 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-29 15:06 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-30 17:16 ` Stephen Leake
2002-04-30 18:31 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-26 17:16 ` Darren New
2002-04-26 17:53 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-28 0:09 ` Darren New
2002-04-25 17:44 ` Stephen Leake
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2002-04-30 4:49 ` Simon Wright
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2002-04-30 14:32 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-02 15:52 ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-01 22:17 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-24 17:25 ` Darren New
2002-04-24 19:36 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-24 19:38 ` David Bolen
2002-04-24 21:57 ` Stephen Leake
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2002-04-21 5:46 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-21 18:44 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-22 14:31 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-25 2:29 ` Brian Gaffney
2002-04-25 14:06 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 0:42 ` David Bolen
2002-04-22 2:57 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-22 22:58 ` David Bolen
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2002-04-18 18:57 ` Data!, was " tmoran
2002-04-18 20:51 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 21:28 ` Gary Scott
2002-04-18 22:10 ` Pascal Obry
2002-04-18 23:08 ` Darren New
2002-04-19 13:29 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 3:04 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-18 22:28 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-04-19 10:07 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-19 10:13 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-20 5:12 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-19 11:00 ` John English
2002-04-19 16:45 ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-18 20:28 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-17 23:31 ` martin.m.dowie
2002-04-17 18:04 ` Outside view (still): " Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-17 19:10 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-17 22:15 ` Robert Dewar
2002-04-17 23:20 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-18 1:19 ` Pat Rogers
2002-04-18 4:53 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-18 5:40 ` Simon Wright
2002-04-19 13:22 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-18 8:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-04-18 2:12 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-18 5:03 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-18 12:50 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-18 14:34 ` Gary Scott
2002-04-18 13:43 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-18 4:21 ` Richard Riehle
2002-04-18 4:59 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-18 14:44 ` new Ada language features needed? Stephen Leake
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2002-04-19 17:39 ` Michael Erdmann
2002-04-19 18:58 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-20 17:35 ` Michael Erdmann
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