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From: "Mark Lundquist" <mlundquist2@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: Another Idea for Ada 20XX
Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 22:51:47 GMT
Date: 2001-12-07T22:51:47+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7KbQ7.11747$wL4.10839@rwcrnsc51> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3C0F8E75.4F5CB3B8@amsjv.com


"Philip Anderson" <phil.anderson@amsjv.com> wrote in message
news:3C0F8E75.4F5CB3B8@amsjv.com...
> Mark Lundquist wrote:
> >
> <snip>
> > Units are unlike types in that they are optional (think about it, what
units
> > would you give for Pi?).
> <snap>
>
> I don't think units are "optional", although they may be dimensionless,
> ie just numbers like Pi.

Eh?  OK, so I'll ask again, what units would you give for Pi?

>  Note that radians, being a ratio, are actually
> dimensionless.

No, they are not!

(BTW rate is also the ratio of distance/time, and of course rate isn't
dimensionless -- any more than radians are!)

The dimension of angle is distance/distance.  (I'm not making this up -- the
SI define radians in terms of meter*(meter**-1)).  That's why when you
multiply a distance by an angle, you get a distance.  But if you were to
multiply a mass by an angle, you do not get a mass (which would make it a
unit conversion), but something whose units would be "kg-radians".  (What
use would that have?  Beats me, for all I know there might be one... I'm a
physics 'tard, my wise-ass PhD little brother got all the physics genes :-)
:-)

Dimensionless numbers do not change the units when you multiply them, that's
the difference.  No measurement is dimensionless.

Cheers,
Mark






  reply	other threads:[~2001-12-07 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-02 19:51 Another Idea for Ada 20XX Gautier Write-only-address
2001-12-02 22:36 ` James Rogers
2001-12-03 12:44   ` Marc A. Criley
2001-12-03 14:29     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-12-04  0:25       ` Marc A. Criley
2001-12-04  1:40   ` Adrian Hoe
2001-12-04  1:56     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-12-04 16:08       ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-04 17:48         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-12-09 23:02           ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-10 16:22             ` Stephen Leake
2001-12-10 17:11               ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-10 20:30               ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-12-10 20:59                 ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-10 17:09             ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-10 17:32               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-12-04 19:59         ` Vincent Marciante
2001-12-04 20:20           ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-04 22:18         ` Matthew Heaney
2001-12-06  4:14         ` Richard Riehle
2001-12-06 17:39           ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-07  0:55             ` Adrian Hoe
2001-12-07  9:01               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-12-07 11:49           ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-12-07 22:51           ` Dimensions (was Re: Another Idea for Ada 20XX) Mark Lundquist
2001-12-08  3:52             ` Richard Riehle
2001-12-08  5:28               ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-08 18:59                 ` Matthew Heaney
2001-12-08 21:23               ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-09 22:15               ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-12-10 14:09             ` Ian
2001-12-03 14:56 ` Another Idea for Ada 20XX Mark Lundquist
2001-12-06 15:27   ` Philip Anderson
2001-12-07 22:51     ` Mark Lundquist [this message]
2001-12-10  9:01       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-02 21:24 Gautier Write-only-address
2001-12-03 14:56 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-02 16:01 James Rogers
2001-12-02 16:38 ` Preben Randhol
2001-12-02 22:26   ` James Rogers
2001-12-02 21:19 ` Patrick Hohmeyer
2001-12-02 21:26 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-12-02 23:49   ` Patrick Hohmeyer
2001-12-03  6:06     ` Wilhelm Spickermann
2001-12-03  8:58     ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-12-03 13:40     ` Thomas Koenig
2001-12-03  0:21 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-12-03  0:35 ` Robert Dewar
2001-12-03  1:33   ` James Rogers
2001-12-03 12:34     ` Dirk Dickmanns
2001-12-03 14:56 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-03 15:12   ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-12-03 17:00   ` chris.danx
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