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From: nabbasi@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java
Date: 1999/02/09
Date: 1999-02-09T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <79pn97$po8@drn.newsguy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 79pdd1$3mj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com

In article <79pdd1$3mj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, robert_dewar@my-dejanews.com
says...
 
>
>I must say it is a big disappointment to us as Ada
>implementors that the pthreads world is such a mess.

There is also Windows threads, which is not pthreads. And
this is another reason why using Ada, and Ada tasks would 
make life so much simpler, since the Ada run-time would 
take care of what threading is used on the platform.

As for the issue that Rober Dewar raised about pthreads "standard" 
behaving differently on different platforms, I can give an 
example exactly to ilustrate this point. During recent port of some 
application that used pthreads:

Calling sigtimedwait() from inside a signal handler. 
This worked Ok on Solaris (and few other platforms), when the 
code was ported to AIX, this introduced a subtle bug, where 
it turned that doing the above was not safe and did not work on 
AIX, and the code has to be changed so not to call sigtimedwait() 
when in a signal handler.

Also, on AIX, sending a pthread_kill(SIGUSR2) to a thread
who is in pthread_cond_wait() caused a problem, while on
Solaris it seemed to work ok.

These were not easy bugs to find and fix by the the developers,
it took allot of time to fix.  Using Ada and Ada tasks would have meant
that this threaded code would have been more portable and since
Ada gives a higher level of task abstraction and constructs, I would
also say the design would have been easier to understand.

But is any one in the commerical world listening? it does not seem so,
people are still writing large complex applications in windows threads
and in pthreads and in C and C++, and now also in Java threads.

I became aware recently of a HUGE application being designed and
developed now in some large finanical company that is heavlly threaded
and real-time, and it is being done on NT and using window threads :(

A smart person I would say, would use this well kept secret of Ada,
and would go and build a better and more robust applications in Ada, 
and would not let any of the competition know that they used Ada, so
that they would continue to waste their time and money as they wish.
 
Why let the competition know about something that might be good for
them if they used it?

Nasser


 




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Thread overview: 450+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-01-12  0:00 Ada vs C++ vs Java Leszek Sczaniecki
1999-01-13  0:00 ` John Woodruff
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Corvus
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Herman
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Craig Garrett
1999-01-13  0:00       ` Michael Trausch
1999-01-14  0:00         ` Martijn Lievaart
1999-01-14  0:00           ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-16  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Craig Garrett
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Jeff Carter
1999-01-15  0:00       ` dewar
1999-01-16  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-18  0:00         ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-24  0:00         ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-20  0:00       ` Peter Flynn
     [not found]   ` <01be3f41$c1205ba0$5704fbd1@longslide>
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Thaddeus L. Olczyk
1999-01-17  0:00       ` Craig Garrett
1999-01-20  0:00         ` Gerry Quinn
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Tom Maier
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Vladyslav Kosulin
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-22  0:00   ` Tov Are Jacobsen
1999-01-13  0:00 ` dennison
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Erik Funkenbusch
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Peter
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Corvus
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Ken Keys
1999-01-14  0:00       ` John Woodruff
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Ken Keys
1999-01-15  0:00           ` Marc A. Criley
1999-01-15  0:00           ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Ken Keys
1999-01-15  0:00           ` dennison
1999-01-15  0:00           ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-19  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-19  0:00               ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-15  0:00       ` dennison
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Ralph Cook
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Erik Funkenbusch
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Bob Munck
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Dave Whipp
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Erik Funkenbusch
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Chris Gray
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Gerhard Menzl
1999-01-14  0:00     ` John Birch
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Pat Rogers
1999-01-16  0:00         ` John Birch
1999-01-16  0:00           ` Pat Rogers
1999-01-17  0:00           ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-17  0:00             ` Mike Coffin
1999-01-17  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-02-04  0:00                 ` mll
1999-02-04  0:00                   ` mike
1999-02-04  0:00                     ` John McCabe
1999-02-04  0:00                       ` Hyman Rosen
1999-02-04  0:00                       ` mike
1999-02-05  0:00                         ` John McCabe
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Stephen Leake
1999-02-06  0:00                       ` Michael Stark
1999-02-08  0:00                         ` Stanley Friesen [Contractor]
1999-02-12  0:00                           ` Michael Stark
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-05  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                           ` mike
1999-02-06  0:00                             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-06  0:00                             ` robert_dewar
1999-02-06  0:00                               ` mike
1999-02-08  0:00                                 ` dennison
1999-02-08  0:00                                   ` Al Christians
1999-02-08  0:00                                     ` William Clodius
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-09  0:00                                   ` Matt Austern
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-09  0:00                               ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-09  0:00                               ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-02-06  0:00                           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-08  0:00                             ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` mike
1999-02-08  0:00                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-09  0:00                                   ` atomly
1999-02-09  0:00                                     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-09  0:00                               ` robert_dewar
1999-02-10  0:00                                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-10  0:00                                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-10  0:00                                     ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-02-10  0:00                                     ` mike
1999-02-10  0:00                                       ` nabbasi
1999-02-10  0:00                                       ` Al Christians
1999-02-12  0:00                                         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-12  0:00                                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-11  0:00                                     ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-12  0:00                                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-13  0:00                                         ` Dale Stanbrough
1999-02-15  0:00                                         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-16  0:00                                           ` robert_dewar
1999-02-15  0:00                                       ` P.S. Norby
1999-02-16  0:00                                         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Fredric L. Rice
     [not found]                           ` <79fnce$iv8@drn.newsguy.c <36beecef.70d8ed5e@pwfl.com>
1999-02-08  0:00                             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-07  0:00                         ` James S. Rogers
1999-02-07  0:00                           ` mike
1999-02-07  0:00                             ` Simon Wright
1999-02-09  0:00                               ` robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` nabbasi [this message]
1999-02-07  0:00                             ` James S. Rogers
1999-02-07  0:00                               ` mike
1999-02-07  0:00                                 ` atomly
1999-02-08  0:00                                   ` Pascal Obry
1999-02-08  0:00                                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-08  0:00                                     ` Dan Nagle
1999-02-08  0:00                                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-09  0:00                               ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` Marin David Condic
     [not found]                             ` <79 <36BF2098.11E0761B@erols.com>
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` Bjarne Stroustrup
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-08  0:00                             ` robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-08  0:00                           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
     [not found]                           ` <79k65l$s0t@drn.news <36c006b8.fc6c187d@acenet.com.au>
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-09  0:00                       ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-09  0:00                         ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Richard D Riehle
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-09  0:00                       ` Fredric L. Rice
1999-02-06  0:00                     ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` mike
1999-02-08  0:00                         ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-08  0:00                           ` mike
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` P.S. Norby
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-08  0:00                           ` Stanley Friesen [Contractor]
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` Andrew Koenig
1999-02-06  0:00                     ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-08  0:00                       ` mike
1999-02-08  0:00                         ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-09  0:00                           ` Geoff Bull
1999-02-09  0:00                             ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-09  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-02-09  0:00                         ` Geoff Bull
1999-01-17  0:00               ` Ell
1999-01-17  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-17  0:00                 ` Mike Coffin
1999-01-17  0:00                   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-17  0:00                     ` Mike Coffin
1999-01-19  0:00                       ` adam
1999-01-18  0:00                         ` kevin
1999-01-20  0:00                           ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-19  0:00                         ` Mike Coffin
1999-01-20  0:00                           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-21  0:00                             ` adam
1999-01-23  0:00                               ` Simon Wright
1999-01-19  0:00                         ` Michael Rubenstein
1999-01-19  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-21  0:00                           ` Lieven Marchand
1999-01-22  0:00                       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-22  0:00                         ` adam
1999-01-23  0:00                           ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-24  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-02-01  0:00                             ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-02-01  0:00                               ` Al Christians
1999-02-02  0:00                                 ` Jerry van Dijk
1999-01-18  0:00                 ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-19  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                     ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-21  0:00                       ` dennison
1999-01-21  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-21  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-21  0:00                         ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-21  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-22  0:00                         ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-24  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-24  0:00                             ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-25  0:00                               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-25  0:00                                 ` Joe Gwinn
1999-01-27  0:00                     ` Ola Liljedahl
1999-01-27  0:00                       ` Scott Johnson
1999-01-27  0:00                       ` Instruction Set Semantics Nick Roberts
1999-01-28  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-28  0:00                       ` Ada vs C++ vs Java robert_dewar
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Bjarne Stroustrup
1999-01-16  0:00         ` John Birch
1999-01-15  0:00       ` Wolfgang Denk
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Ola Liljedahl
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Herman
1999-01-15  0:00         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00           ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-25  0:00             ` Real-time dyn allctn (was: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Nick Roberts
1999-01-25  0:00               ` Niklas Holsti
1999-01-26  0:00                 ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-25  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-26  0:00                 ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-28  0:00                   ` dmitrik
1999-01-29  0:00                     ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-25  0:00               ` John Birch
1999-01-26  0:00                 ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-27  0:00                   ` John Birch
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Ada vs C++ vs Java John Birch
1999-01-15  0:00       ` Gerhard Menzl
1999-01-15  0:00         ` John Birch
1999-01-16  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00             ` Crazy Pete
1999-01-16  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00                 ` Judah Diament
1999-01-16  0:00                   ` bill
1999-01-16  0:00                     ` Al Christians
1999-01-17  0:00                     ` Judah Diament
1999-01-17  0:00                     ` robert_dewar
1999-01-17  0:00                       ` bill
1999-01-26  0:00                       ` Enforcement of coding standards (was: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Nick Roberts
1999-01-26  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-01-17  0:00                     ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Dennis
1999-01-16  0:00             ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-16  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00                 ` Draconian coding standards (was: Ada vs C++ vs Java) dennison
1999-01-18  0:00                   ` dewar
1999-01-18  0:00                     ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-01-19  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                             ` dennison
1999-01-19  0:00                     ` Simon Wright
1999-01-19  0:00                   ` Bob Munck
1999-01-19  0:00                     ` Aidan Skinner
1999-01-19  0:00                     ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00             ` Ada vs C++ vs Java dennison
1999-01-18  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-18  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                 ` Peter Hend�n
1999-01-19  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                 ` Crazy Pete
1999-01-19  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                     ` Christopher Browne
1999-01-19  0:00                       ` bill
1999-01-20  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-01-20  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                             ` dennison
1999-01-21  0:00                               ` dewar
1999-01-21  0:00                                 ` bourguet
1999-01-21  0:00                                 ` dennison
1999-01-20  0:00                             ` dennison
1999-01-21  0:00                               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-21  0:00                               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-21  0:00                                 ` Al Christians
1999-01-21  0:00                                   ` Matthew Heaney
     [not found]                                     ` <m3g194bhzh.fsf@fred.muc.de>
1999-01-21  0:00                                       ` Stephen Leake
1999-01-21  0:00                                     ` Al Christians
1999-01-22  0:00                                       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-21  0:00                                         ` bill_1
1999-01-22  0:00                                           ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-22  0:00                                             ` bill_1
1999-01-22  0:00                                               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-22  0:00                                             ` Ada mode requests (Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java) dennison
1999-01-22  0:00                                               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-22  0:00                                                 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1999-01-24  0:00                                                   ` robert_dewar
1999-01-22  0:00                                                 ` dennison
1999-01-22  0:00                                               ` dennison
1999-01-22  0:00                                               ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1999-01-24  0:00                                                 ` dewar
1999-01-28  0:00                                                   ` John McCabe
1999-01-29  0:00                                                     ` dewar
1999-01-29  0:00                                                       ` John McCabe
1999-01-30  0:00                                                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-30  0:00                                                           ` John McCabe
1999-01-29  0:00                                                     ` John McCabe
1999-01-25  0:00                                                 ` John McCabe
     [not found]                                                   ` <36afc1ec.20165240@news.geccs.gecm.com>
1999-01-26  0:00                                                     ` John McCabe
1999-01-27  0:00                                                       ` dennison
     [not found]                                                       ` <36b019e5.897220@news.geccs.gecm.com>
1999-01-28  0:00                                                         ` John McCabe
1999-01-29  0:00                                                           ` dewar
1999-01-29  0:00                                                             ` Samuel Tardieu
1999-01-30  0:00                                                               ` John McCabe
     [not found]                                                           ` <36b170cd.1793333@news.geccs.gecm.com>
1999-01-29  0:00                                                             ` John McCabe
1999-01-23  0:00                                             ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Simon Wright
1999-01-23  0:00                                               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-24  0:00                                                 ` Simon Wright
1999-01-24  0:00                                                   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-24  0:00                                             ` dewar
     [not found]                                             ` <36af43e6.7584350@news.geccs.gecm.com>
     [not found]                                               ` <36b04b91.9547583@news.geccs.gecm.com>
1999-01-26  0:00                                                 ` Ada Mode wish list John McCabe
1999-01-26  0:00                                               ` Simon Wright
1999-01-22  0:00                                         ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-01-20  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-21  0:00                           ` Peter Hend�n
1999-01-20  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-01-20  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                         ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-01-21  0:00                   ` Martin Dowie
1999-01-18  0:00           ` Gerhard Menzl
1999-01-18  0:00             ` robert_dewar
1999-01-15  0:00       ` James Kanze
1999-01-16  0:00         ` John Birch
1999-01-17  0:00           ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-17  0:00             ` phil
1999-01-17  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00             ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00               ` Dynamic memory? (was Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Martijn Lievaart
1999-01-18  0:00                 ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00                   ` Ken Keys
1999-01-26  0:00                     ` Scott Johnson
1999-01-18  0:00                   ` Martijn Lievaart
1999-01-18  0:00                     ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00                     ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00                       ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00                         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                         ` James Kanze
1999-01-18  0:00                       ` Martijn Lievaart
1999-01-18  0:00                       ` James Kanze
1999-01-18  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-18  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-01-18  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                             ` news.oxy.com
1999-01-25  0:00                             ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-26  0:00                               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                         ` Laurent Safa
1999-01-20  0:00                           ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-21  0:00                           ` Richard Kenner
1999-01-19  0:00                         ` bourguet
1999-01-21  0:00                         ` Georg Bauhaus
1999-01-21  0:00                           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-20  0:00                       ` Stanley Friesen [Contractor]
1999-01-18  0:00               ` Ada vs C++ vs Java James Kanze
1999-01-18  0:00                 ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-01-19  0:00                   ` James Kanze
1999-01-18  0:00           ` James Kanze
1999-01-18  0:00             ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00               ` James Kanze
1999-01-19  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-16  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-16  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-18  0:00     ` Ken Keys
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Tucker Taft
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Emil Rojas
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Bob Cousins
1999-01-14  0:00   ` dennison
1999-01-14  0:00   ` jim.hyslop
1999-01-15  0:00     ` robert_dewar
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Herman
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-15  0:00     ` David R. Conrad
1999-01-15  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-15  0:00           ` Al Christians
1999-01-16  0:00             ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-16  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00             ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Bob Munck
1999-01-24  0:00         ` COBOL/Top-Down prog'g (was: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Nick Roberts
1999-01-25  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-01-22  0:00     ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Patrick Wibbeler
1999-01-26  0:00       ` Ken
1999-01-27  0:00         ` Scott Johnson
1999-01-26  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-27  0:00         ` Peter Amey
1999-01-29  0:00         ` P.S. Norby
1999-01-27  0:00       ` Robert Garskof
1999-01-27  0:00         ` Jay O'Connor
1999-01-28  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-28  0:00             ` Joshua fit de wall
1999-01-29  0:00               ` Herman
1999-01-31  0:00             ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
1999-01-31  0:00               ` him/her: was: " robert_dewar
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Peter Amey
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Ola Liljedahl
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Ola Liljedahl
1999-01-15  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Chris Gray
1999-01-14  0:00       ` Tom Maier
1999-01-21  0:00         ` Brent A Ellingson
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Crazy Pete
1999-01-15  0:00     ` Markus Kuhn
1999-01-15  0:00       ` Peter
1999-01-15  0:00         ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1999-01-15  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-16  0:00         ` Tucker Taft
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Peter
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Peter Sch�ller
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Michael J. Tobler
1999-01-15  0:00       ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-15  0:00       ` dewar
1999-01-15  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-01-14  0:00     ` dennison
1999-01-13  0:00   ` David Gillon
1999-01-24  0:00     ` Y2.1K (was: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Nick Roberts
1999-02-05  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1999-02-05  0:00         ` robert_dewar
1999-01-13  0:00   ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Richard Krehbiel
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-13  0:00     ` Dave Hansen
1999-01-14  0:00     ` dennison
1999-01-15  0:00       ` dewar
1999-01-15  0:00         ` dennison
1999-01-14  0:00 ` Pete Becker
1999-01-15  0:00   ` Scott Johnson
1999-01-15  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-16  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-18  0:00     ` James Kanze
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Scott Johnson
     [not found] ` <01be3f5e$26453ca0$5704fbd1@longslide>
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Siamak Kaveh
1999-01-16  0:00     ` Craig Garrett
1999-01-18  0:00       ` Ken Keys
1999-01-15  0:00 ` Bruce Detter
1999-01-18  0:00   ` John Birch
1999-01-18  0:00     ` Bruce Detter
1999-01-19  0:00       ` Thanks everyone! (was Re: Ada vs C++ vs Java) Martijn Lievaart
1999-01-19  0:00         ` John Birch
1999-01-19  0:00           ` Bob Cousins
1999-01-19  0:00           ` Scott Johnson
1999-01-22  0:00 ` Ada vs C++ vs Java Dr. Hubert B. Keller
1999-01-22  0:00   ` Bob Cousins
1999-01-22  0:00     ` Roedy Green
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1999-01-13  0:00 Leszek Sczaniecki
1999-01-13  0:00 ` David A. Frantz
1999-01-14  0:00   ` forsyth
1999-01-14  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-15  0:00     ` robert_dewar
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Network
1999-01-14  0:00   ` Ken Keys
1999-01-15  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-01-13  0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
     [not found] ` <369CF2CF.440F413C@hercii.mar.lmco.com>
1999-01-16  0:00   ` bob
     [not found] <m3k8yhy6fe.fsf@fred.muc.de>
1999-01-21  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-01-21  0:00   ` forsyth
1999-01-22  0:00     ` Tucker Taft
1999-01-25  0:00       ` Walter Mallory
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