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From: robert_dewar@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Re: Open Source Licensing (was: Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future)
Date: 1999/02/09
Date: 1999-02-09T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <79pdpd$42v$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m2btj4hbbs.fsf@wf-rch.cirr.com

In article <m2btj4hbbs.fsf@wf-rch.cirr.com>,
  minyard@acm.org wrote:

> Right to reverse-engineer is guaranteed by law in the US
> (Nintento vs Galoob).  What the licenses say means
> nothing.  US Congress is working
> to change that, but maybe they can be stopped.

Corey, you are not a lawyer, so you should be very careful
about making misleading statements like this. The case,
which by the way is misspelled here, it is Nintendo vs
Galoob, does not have anything like the general sweeping
interpretation that you suggest.

You need to study case law in much more detail, and I am
afraid you will find it is more depressing than you think
with respect to reverse engineering. Look for example at
Microsoft vs Stacker, and many other cases (if you go into
one of the standard legal search engines, and look for
reverse engineering, you will pull up quite a few cases).

You also need to study the recent legislation passed by
congress, which also affects the situation here.

It would be nice if you were right, but unfortunately, the
situation with reverse engineering is not nearly so black
and white as your wishful thinking would suggest.

I certainly agree that this is an area requiring people to
be educated, and to make their voices known. The situation
is already much worse than you suppose here.

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  reply	other threads:[~1999-02-09  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-01-31  0:00 Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future Alexy V Khrabrov
1999-01-31  0:00 ` Simon Wright
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Jeff Carter
1999-02-08  0:00   ` Michael F Brenner
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-01  0:00   ` Alexy V Khrabrov
1999-02-01  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-01  0:00       ` Jeff Carter
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-01  0:00   ` Ehud Lamm
1999-02-02  0:00     ` Richard D Riehle
1999-02-03  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-02  0:00     ` Pointer Arithmetic (was: Wanted: Ada STL....) adam
1999-02-02  0:00       ` William Clodius
1999-02-03  0:00         ` adam
1999-02-03  0:00           ` William Clodius
1999-02-03  0:00           ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-03  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-02-03  0:00             ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-02-03  0:00       ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-03  0:00         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-03  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1999-02-03  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-02  0:00     ` Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future Brian Rogoff
1999-02-02  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-04  0:00         ` Ehud Lamm
1999-02-03  0:00       ` John English
1999-02-03  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-03  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-04  0:00             ` Stephen Leake
1999-02-04  0:00               ` Hyman Rosen
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Stephen Leake
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` Hyman Rosen
1999-02-04  0:00               ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Stephen Leake
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-04  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-05  0:00               ` John English
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` Richard D Riehle
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-06  0:00                   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-05  0:00           ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-05  0:00           ` John English
1999-02-04  0:00         ` Ehud Lamm
1999-02-04  0:00           ` Al Christians
1999-02-04  0:00           ` Pat Rogers
1999-02-04  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-04  0:00               ` Pat Rogers
1999-02-04  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Tom Moran
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                         ` Tom Moran
1999-02-05  0:00                           ` dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                             ` dennison
1999-02-06  0:00                               ` dewar
1999-02-08  0:00                                 ` dennison
1999-02-08  0:00                                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-08  0:00                                     ` dennison
1999-02-09  0:00                                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                                         ` dennison
1999-02-09  0:00                                     ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-07  0:00                               ` Simon Wright
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-08  0:00                                 ` Open Source Licensing (was: Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future) dennison
1999-02-08  0:00                                   ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-09  0:00                                     ` robert_dewar [this message]
1999-02-09  0:00                                       ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-09  0:00                                     ` dennison
1999-02-09  0:00                                       ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                                   ` dennison
1999-02-10  0:00                                     ` robert_dewar
1999-02-07  0:00                           ` Simon Wright
     [not found]                     ` <36ba730b.35540068@ <79fmg1$fn0$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
1999-02-06  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
     [not found]                     ` <79f24e$t14 <36BB4162.52FC6D9F@averstar.com>
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` dennison
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` dennison
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-02-06  0:00                       ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-04  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-05  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-05  0:00               ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-08  0:00                 ` John English
1999-02-05  0:00           ` John English
1999-02-09  0:00             ` micro_ada
1999-02-05  0:00         ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-08  0:00           ` John English
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1999-02-01  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-01  0:00 ` dennison
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1999-02-05  0:00 ` Corey Minyard
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