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From: dennison@telepath.com
Subject: Open Source Licensing (was: Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future)
Date: 1999/02/08
Date: 1999-02-08T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <79nfkk$gpf$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m2hfsxgcz7.fsf@wf-rch.cirr.com

In article <m2hfsxgcz7.fsf@wf-rch.cirr.com>,
  minyard@acm.org wrote:
> dennison@telepath.com writes:
> > I'm currently trying to find a good open-source license to use, and this
> > trips over just the issue I'm comming up against. I don't wan't to use some
> > "idiosyncratic" license, because that in and of itself could somewhat limit
> > the software's use. But at the same time the GPL (and even to a lesser
extent
> > the LGPL) seem to have unfortunate "infectious" attributes. Next chance I
get
> > I'll look into the Ada Community License; hopefully it's better.
> >
>
> What is the problem with the LGPL?  I used that for my components.  It
> allows inclusion into 3rd party programs without releasing source to
> that 3rd party program.  It does require that you distribute (or tell
> how to get) the included library.  If you make any changes to the
> LGPL'ed library, you are also required to give the changes away.

According to section 5(p2), an executable linked with LGPL software is a
"derivative of the Library", and thus must be distributed under the rules in
section 6.

Section 6 seems to require that licensing terms for such derivatives must
allow users to reverse-engineer the executable. That is incompatable with a
typical closed-source license.

Paragraph 3 of section 6 looks like it would require a Windows user to
provide a linker to anyone they distribute the executable to!

I also am not quite sure how a child package would be accounted for here.
Would a court decide that is a modification to the library itself, or simply
a "work that uses the Library"?

T.E.D.

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Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-01-31  0:00 Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future Alexy V Khrabrov
1999-01-31  0:00 ` Simon Wright
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Jeff Carter
1999-02-08  0:00   ` Michael F Brenner
1999-02-01  0:00 ` dennison
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1999-02-01  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-01  0:00   ` Alexy V Khrabrov
1999-02-01  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-01  0:00       ` Jeff Carter
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-01  0:00   ` Ehud Lamm
1999-02-02  0:00     ` Richard D Riehle
1999-02-03  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-02  0:00     ` Pointer Arithmetic (was: Wanted: Ada STL....) adam
1999-02-02  0:00       ` William Clodius
1999-02-03  0:00         ` adam
1999-02-03  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-02-03  0:00             ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-02-03  0:00           ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-03  0:00           ` William Clodius
1999-02-03  0:00       ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-03  0:00         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-03  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1999-02-03  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-02  0:00     ` Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future Brian Rogoff
1999-02-02  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-04  0:00         ` Ehud Lamm
1999-02-03  0:00       ` John English
1999-02-03  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-03  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-04  0:00             ` Stephen Leake
1999-02-04  0:00               ` Hyman Rosen
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Stephen Leake
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` Hyman Rosen
1999-02-04  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-04  0:00               ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Stephen Leake
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-05  0:00               ` John English
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-06  0:00                   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` Richard D Riehle
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-05  0:00           ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-05  0:00           ` John English
1999-02-04  0:00         ` Ehud Lamm
1999-02-04  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-05  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-05  0:00               ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-08  0:00                 ` John English
1999-02-04  0:00           ` Pat Rogers
1999-02-04  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-04  0:00               ` Pat Rogers
1999-02-04  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Tom Moran
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                         ` Tom Moran
1999-02-05  0:00                           ` dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                             ` dennison
1999-02-06  0:00                               ` dewar
1999-02-08  0:00                                 ` dennison
1999-02-08  0:00                                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-08  0:00                                     ` dennison
1999-02-09  0:00                                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                                         ` dennison
1999-02-09  0:00                                     ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-07  0:00                               ` Simon Wright
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-08  0:00                                 ` dennison [this message]
1999-02-08  0:00                                   ` Open Source Licensing (was: Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future) Corey Minyard
1999-02-09  0:00                                     ` robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                                       ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-09  0:00                                     ` dennison
1999-02-09  0:00                                       ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                                   ` dennison
1999-02-10  0:00                                     ` robert_dewar
1999-02-07  0:00                           ` Simon Wright
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                     ` <36ba730b.35540068@ <79fmg1$fn0$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
1999-02-06  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
     [not found]                     ` <79f24e$t14 <36BB4162.52FC6D9F@averstar.com>
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` dennison
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` dennison
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-02-06  0:00                       ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-04  0:00           ` Al Christians
1999-02-05  0:00           ` John English
1999-02-09  0:00             ` micro_ada
1999-02-05  0:00         ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-08  0:00           ` John English
1999-02-05  0:00 ` Corey Minyard
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