Re: a new language, designed for safety !

[gvdschoot@gmail.com]

On Sunday, June 15, 2014 8:33:44 AM UTC+2, Tero Koskinen wrote:
> 13.6.2014 16:16, Simon Wright wrote:
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> > gvdschoot@gmail.com writes:
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> >> The thing is: The languages with more options will win. You see that
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> >> with the Rust vs Go people. Go is a language that is close to
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> >> Oberon-14, with very well thought simplicity. Rust on the other hand
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> >> is *the* C++ replacement and it has all the features that makes code
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> >> hard to understand. But because of all these features it attracts the
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> >> developers of today. Non-determinism is a very good thing
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> >> IMO. Reasonability results in good code that is easy to maintain. But
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> >> we don't live in that world anymore.
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> > 
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> > I _hope_ you're being sarcastic.
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> > 
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> This is valid Rust code [1]:
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> pub fn inner<'a>(&'a mut self) -> &'a mut R
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> {
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>    &mut self.h.r
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> }
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> Yours,
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>  Tero
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> [1] https://twitter.com/damienmiller/status/476207923702423552

On reddit there was a discussion about the GNU coreutils in platform independent Rust code[1] and here the code itself on github[2]. This is how it looks like in Go[3]. I mean, just look at the code. I am sorry to say this, but in the case of Rust I see C++ mistakes being repeated. To me language syntax is very important. Readability, simplicity and reasonability should be paramount. 


<i>"Are you quite sure that all those bells and whistles, all those wonderful facilities of your so called powerful programming languages, belong to the solution set rather than the problem set?"</i>

        -- Edsger W. Dijkstra


[1] http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/27yccu/crossplatform_rust_rewrite_of_the_gnu_coreutils/
[2] https://github.com/uutils/coreutils
[3] https://github.com/aisola/go-coreutils