From: "news.oxy.com" <Vladimir_Olensky@oxy.com>
Subject: Re: how to make Ada more popular?
Date: 1999/01/25
Date: 1999-01-25T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <78hoiq$q5b$1@remarQ.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 789kei$mbd$1@news.Kijfhoek.NL.net
Kees Serier wrote in message <789kei$mbd$1@news.Kijfhoek.NL.net>...
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>bill_1@nospam.com wrote in message <787hk5$q6t@drn.newsguy.com>...
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>What else is popular?
>Programming Windows (mainly MS-Windows) I think.
>
>What is used for this task?
>C++, Delphi, Virtual Basic
>What do they have that GNAT does not have?
>Class libraries and tools for making programming Windows easy.
I was always trying to point this out almost in my every message to this
forum and I will do this more and more that if there will be some kind of
the RAD (Rapid Application Development) close to Delphi in functionality
based on Ada 95 this will be a revolution in Ada community that can
significantly improve Ada positions outside the military area: ( commercial
world - corporate IS departments, companies that are making software for
that market as well as other public domains ).
But so far there was no comments regarding this from Averstar, ACT, Aonix
an other Ada Companies. I think everyone wants to hear from them what they
are thinking about this.
>There are some commercial Ada compilers that also have these tools, and
also
>provide those
>for use with GNAT, but those are not free and will therefor not lead to the
>wanted popularity
>(allthough they probably will be of high quality).
CLAW from RR Software (which is $495) is example of this.
It is right step in right direction but it is not available individuals and
right now it is still only high OO library (so called Win32 thick bindings)
for GUI and GUI builder that is built to generate Ada GUI application using
this OO. So it can not be called RAD now. Maybe some time later.
I have ordered it for myself (as a corporate user) but a lot of other people
just can not do this.
Aonix OA also has GUI builder but again it can not be called RAD tool.
No doubt that there is a great need for public "Ada Delphi". As Delphi is a
registered trademark some new bright catchy name for the marketing should
be invented.
Borland Delphi is one of the best examples of the right approach to the
needs of people in the Windows programming area.
MS-Windows NT is now dominant desktop operating system on the enterprise
level (other people may think the other way - let's no discuss this further
at this forum) so everyone who will ignore that fact can lose the game.
There are a lot of people who do not like Microsoft for many different
reasons and trying to ignore that phenomena but not to do thing for Windows
NT as a result of such dislike is just unwise.
Programming under Windows is not just popular (I mean that it should not be
considered as some kind of hobby and thus to be ignored). It is a
corporate/enterprise IS market demand. I state this as a corporate MIS
department staff member. When such demands are taken into account by
software Companies we have success stories such as Borland Delphi (Borland
even recenly change it's name to Inprise to stress that their products are
aimed at the enterprise market).
Regards to all,
Vladimir Olensky
(vladimir_olensky@yahoo.com)
(Vladimir_Olensky@oxy.com)
Telecommunication specialist,
Occidental C.I.S. Service, Inc. ( www.oxy.com )
Moscow,
Russia.
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1999-01-21 0:00 how to make Ada more popular? bill_1
1999-01-21 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
1999-01-21 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-01-22 0:00 ` Samuel Tardieu
1999-01-23 0:00 ` micro_ada
1999-01-23 0:00 ` Al Christians
1999-01-21 0:00 ` Al Christians
1999-01-21 0:00 ` bill_1
1999-01-21 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-01-21 0:00 ` Hans N. Beck
1999-01-21 0:00 ` Fraser Wilson
1999-01-22 0:00 ` Samuel Tardieu
1999-01-21 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-01-22 0:00 ` dennison
1999-01-22 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-01-24 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-01-24 0:00 ` bill_1
1999-01-25 0:00 ` Kees Serier
1999-01-22 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-01-24 0:00 ` dewar
1999-01-25 0:00 ` Markus Kuhn
1999-01-24 0:00 ` Al Christians
1999-01-25 0:00 ` dennison
1999-01-29 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
1999-01-22 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-01-22 0:00 ` Kees Serier
1999-01-22 0:00 ` dennison
1999-01-25 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-01-25 0:00 ` news.oxy.com [this message]
1999-01-25 0:00 ` bill_1
1999-01-30 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-25 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1999-01-26 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-01-27 0:00 ` kna
1999-01-27 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-01-22 0:00 ` Steve Doiel
1999-01-23 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-01-24 0:00 ` Lack of Ada Windows books (was: " Larry Kilgallen
1999-01-23 0:00 ` Bob Munck
1999-01-31 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-01-27 0:00 ` Making ADA More Popular Michael Garrett
1999-01-27 0:00 ` Michael Garrett
1999-01-27 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-01-27 0:00 ` joel
1999-01-28 0:00 ` dewar
1999-02-03 0:00 ` how to make Ada more popular? Donald Duck
1999-02-03 0:00 ` Andrzej Lewandowski
1999-02-03 0:00 ` news.oxy.com
1999-02-03 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
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