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From: dewarr@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Re: What ada 83 compiler is *best*
Date: 1998/12/09
Date: 1998-12-09T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <74kuja$72s$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1998Dec8.174032.1@eisner

In article <1998Dec8.174032.1@eisner>,
  Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam wrote:
> I have yet to find supported Ada95 compilers for:
>
> 	MVS		Popular, Currently available
> 	OS400		Popular, Currently available
> 	HP-MPE		Currently available
> 	VAX/VMS		Popular, Currently available
> 	Macintosh 68K	Popular
> 	Alpha NT	Currently available
>
> Giving Ada95 an answer of "Yes" for question 1 seems
dubious to me.


The MVS and OS400 entries seem a fair point. The issue
here of course is simply lack of interest. What after all
is interesting in fact is not whether there are compilers
for all machines, but rather whether lack of compilers is
ever an issue. Lack of Ada 95 compilers on MVS and OS400
is simply not an issue, since no one is interested at the
current time.

HP-MPE is a fairly small niche, but this is vaguely fair

VAX/VMS and Max/68K are obsolete machines, and clearly you
will not find compilers for all obsolete machines. These
are after all machines which were pretty much obsolete
at the time that Ada 95 came into existence. Yes, we all
know poor Larry has to play with VAX'es for ever, but this
is hardly relevant to the general scene. And the 68K Mac is
truly a dead dog at this stage, popular, I don't even think
that is fair at this stage.

Alpha NT is definitely an example of a machine that does
have some small niche of usage, and lacks an Ada 95
compiler. It would in fact be easy to port GNAT to this
target, and we even demonstrated this port three years ago,
but there simply has been no interest.

Again, I think the interesting thing here is that we are
now at a stage where lack of compilers is not a significant
factor in Ada 95 usage. Yes, there are some machines which
still don't have Ada 95 support, but this reflects more of
a lack of significant interest in Ada 95 on that target
than anything else.

Robert Dewar

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  reply	other threads:[~1998-12-09  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-12-03  0:00 What ada 83 compiler is *best* Rick Thorne
1998-12-03  0:00 ` Gautier
1998-12-07  0:00   ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-07  0:00     ` Chris Morgan
1998-12-08  0:00       ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00         ` David Gillon
1998-12-08  0:00           ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-08  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-09  0:00           ` John McCabe
1998-12-08  0:00         ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-08  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-09  0:00             ` dewarr [this message]
1998-12-09  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-10  0:00                 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-10  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-07  0:00     ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-08  0:00       ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00         ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-08  0:00           ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00             ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-08  0:00               ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00                 ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-09  0:00                 ` Marc A. Criley
1998-12-09  0:00                 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-08  0:00     ` Gautier.DeMontmollin
1998-12-08  0:00     ` Roga Danar
1998-12-08  0:00       ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-09  0:00         ` Roga Danar
1998-12-10  0:00       ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-09  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-09  0:00       ` dewarr
1998-12-09  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-10  0:00         ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-10  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-10  0:00             ` Tucker Taft
1998-12-11  0:00           ` dewarr
1998-12-14  0:00             ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-09  0:00       ` P.S. Norby
1998-12-03  0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-03  0:00 ` marc j bejerano
1998-12-04  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-04  0:00 ` Ada rotting? (was: What ada 83 compiler is *best*) Roga Danar
1998-12-07  0:00   ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-07  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-07  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1998-12-08  0:00         ` Marin David Condic
     [not found]           ` <366D6BF8.B1F4C1C0@hercii.mar.lmco.com>
1998-12-08  0:00             ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-07  0:00       ` David Botton
1998-12-08  0:00       ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00         ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-08  0:00           ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-09  0:00             ` Chris Morgan
1998-12-07  0:00 ` What ada 83 compiler is *best* Jeff Carter
1998-12-08  0:00   ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00     ` Steve O'Neill
1998-12-08  0:00   ` Robert I. Eachus
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1998-11-18  0:00 Nobody
1998-11-18  0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1998-11-21  0:00   ` dewarr
1998-11-21  0:00   ` dewarr
1998-11-21  0:00   ` dewarr
1998-11-18  0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-11-18  0:00   ` Rick Thorne
1998-11-18  0:00     ` dennison
1998-11-18  0:00     ` Gautier de Montmollin
1998-12-03  0:00     ` Roga Danar
1998-11-19  0:00 ` whiter5195
1998-11-23  0:00   ` Charlie McCutcheon
     [not found] ` <36534040.F30A5E5B@hercii.mar.lmco.com>
1998-11-21  0:00   ` Steve Kerr
1998-11-21  0:00     ` Ed Falis
1998-11-21  0:00     ` Chris Morgan
1998-11-22  0:00   ` Keith Thompson
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