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From: "Pat Rogers" <progers@NOclasswideSPAM.com>
Subject: Re: What ada 83 compiler is *best*
Date: 1998/12/08
Date: 1998-12-08T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <74jnee$b9e$1@remarQ.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 366D68CD.AFC12CAF@XXX_nospam_stelnj.com

Roga Danar wrote in message
<366D68CD.AFC12CAF@XXX_nospam_stelnj.com>...
>Rick Thorne wrote:
>
>>  I think one of the reasons Ada has failed so miserably in
>> commercial US software development is precisely BECAUSE it is a
standard
>> the government has tried to bully on us.
>
>    I could not agree more.  This is the best point you have made.
A language
>choice should be made on real-world constraints.  How much will I
have to pay the
>programmers?  How many tools are there for a given platform or
implementation?  Is
>the language by it's definition "safe" to use in critical systems?

While I certainly agree that a reasoned choice should be made, based
upon facts and not fad, I cannot agree that the government tried to
"bully" their contractors.  The policy was "use Ada or make a good
argument for why not (i.e., make the case for a waiver)".  That is
certainly a reasonable approach for a customer to take -- their
providers were using over 450 different languages and dialects.  A
similar situation would be if a given building were wired for 450
different power levels; a phone system using 450 different
protocols; and on and on.  Trying to get things under control was a
good idea.  That doesn't mean Ada was/is perfect, or that other
languages could not be justified, but this idea of Big Brother
trying to "bully" their contractors is just silliness.






  reply	other threads:[~1998-12-08  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-12-03  0:00 What ada 83 compiler is *best* Rick Thorne
1998-12-03  0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-03  0:00 ` Gautier
1998-12-07  0:00   ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-07  0:00     ` Chris Morgan
1998-12-08  0:00       ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00         ` David Gillon
1998-12-08  0:00           ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-08  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-09  0:00           ` John McCabe
1998-12-08  0:00         ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-08  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-09  0:00             ` dewarr
1998-12-09  0:00               ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-10  0:00                 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-10  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-12-07  0:00     ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-08  0:00       ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00         ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-08  0:00           ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00             ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-08  0:00               ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00                 ` Pat Rogers
1998-12-09  0:00                 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-09  0:00                 ` Marc A. Criley
1998-12-08  0:00     ` Gautier.DeMontmollin
1998-12-08  0:00     ` Roga Danar
1998-12-08  0:00       ` Pat Rogers [this message]
1998-12-09  0:00         ` Roga Danar
1998-12-10  0:00       ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-09  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-09  0:00       ` dewarr
1998-12-09  0:00       ` P.S. Norby
1998-12-09  0:00       ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-10  0:00         ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-10  0:00           ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-10  0:00             ` Tucker Taft
1998-12-11  0:00           ` dewarr
1998-12-14  0:00             ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-12-03  0:00 ` marc j bejerano
1998-12-04  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-12-04  0:00 ` Ada rotting? (was: What ada 83 compiler is *best*) Roga Danar
1998-12-07  0:00   ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-07  0:00     ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-07  0:00       ` David Botton
1998-12-07  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1998-12-08  0:00         ` Marin David Condic
     [not found]           ` <366D6BF8.B1F4C1C0@hercii.mar.lmco.com>
1998-12-08  0:00             ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00       ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00         ` Marin David Condic
1998-12-08  0:00           ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-09  0:00             ` Chris Morgan
1998-12-07  0:00 ` What ada 83 compiler is *best* Jeff Carter
1998-12-08  0:00   ` Rick Thorne
1998-12-08  0:00     ` Steve O'Neill
1998-12-08  0:00   ` Robert I. Eachus
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1998-11-18  0:00 Nobody
1998-11-18  0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-11-18  0:00   ` Rick Thorne
1998-11-18  0:00     ` Gautier de Montmollin
1998-11-18  0:00     ` dennison
1998-12-03  0:00     ` Roga Danar
1998-11-18  0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1998-11-21  0:00   ` dewarr
1998-11-21  0:00   ` dewarr
1998-11-21  0:00   ` dewarr
1998-11-19  0:00 ` whiter5195
1998-11-23  0:00   ` Charlie McCutcheon
     [not found] ` <36534040.F30A5E5B@hercii.mar.lmco.com>
1998-11-21  0:00   ` Steve Kerr
1998-11-21  0:00     ` Chris Morgan
1998-11-21  0:00     ` Ed Falis
1998-11-22  0:00   ` Keith Thompson
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