* !!! WHERE CAN I FIND A GOOD FREE ADA 83 OR 95 COMPILER FOR MY PC ??? !!! @ 1998-10-19 0:00 Eric HILAIRE 1998-10-19 0:00 ` dewar ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Eric HILAIRE @ 1998-10-19 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi, I'm looking for an ADA compiler for my PC (I'm more interested in the 95 version but the 83 one will be a good beginning for me!) thanXXX. eric.hilaire@magic.fr ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: !!! WHERE CAN I FIND A GOOD FREE ADA 83 OR 95 COMPILER FOR MY PC ??? !!! 1998-10-19 0:00 !!! WHERE CAN I FIND A GOOD FREE ADA 83 OR 95 COMPILER FOR MY PC ??? !!! Eric HILAIRE @ 1998-10-19 0:00 ` dewar 1998-10-20 0:00 ` Implementing Annex E (was: !!! WHERE CAN I FIND A GOOD FREE ADA 83 OR 95 COMPILER FOR MY PC ??? !!!) dennison 1998-10-20 0:00 ` !!! WHERE CAN I FIND A GOOD FREE ADA 83 OR 95 COMPILER FOR MY PC ??? !!! Pierre MORERE 1998-10-21 0:00 ` Pascal MALAISE 2 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: dewar @ 1998-10-19 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <362b9f57.1365959@nntp.magic.fr>, eric.hilaire@magic.fr (Eric HILAIRE) wrote: > Hi, > I'm looking for an ADA compiler for my PC (I'm more interested in the > 95 version but the 83 one will be a good beginning for me!) > thanXXX. It seems appropriate for me to answer this, in view of the thread about "GNAT Free?" that has recently appeared :-) Yes indeed Eric, there is a freely available Ada 95 compiler, GNAT. This is a full featured Ada 95 compiler (indeed GNAT is so far the only available Ada 95 compiler that implements the core and all the optional annexes(*)). You can download a version from many FTP sites, including ftp directories pub/gnat at cs.nyu.edu. Many PC versions are available, for various operating systems, including Linux, OS/2, Win95, and WIN/NT. There is definitely no point in looking at Ada 83 at this point (and interestingly, there never was a practical freely available version of Ada 83, one of the great pities in retrospect!) (*) I am looking forward to the point in time when we can no longer say this. It would be really nice to see the other Ada vendors implement all the optional annexes. In particular, it would be really nice to see other implementations of the distributed systems annex. I think this is a very exciting feature of Ada 95 with tremendous potential, but the full potential is not realized unless all Ada 95 compilers implement this feature. In particular, the distribution annex offers a path for convenient integration of Ada programs across multiple machines using different Ada compilers. Robert Dewar Ada Core Technologies -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Implementing Annex E (was: !!! WHERE CAN I FIND A GOOD FREE ADA 83 OR 95 COMPILER FOR MY PC ??? !!!) 1998-10-19 0:00 ` dewar @ 1998-10-20 0:00 ` dennison 1998-10-23 0:00 ` Joseph Wisniewski 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: dennison @ 1998-10-20 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <70gdb4$bdb$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, dewar@gnat.com wrote: > It would be really nice to see the other Ada vendors implement all the > optional annexes. In particular, it would be really nice to see other > implementations of the distributed systems annex. I think this is a very > exciting feature of Ada 95 with tremendous potential, but the full potential > is not realized unless all Ada 95 compilers implement this feature. In > particular, the distribution annex offers a path for convenient integration > of Ada programs across multiple machines using different Ada compilers. Does it really offer that kind of interoprability? According to my reading of annex E it does not. But given that no-one else has implemented it yet, there does appear to be time to create a standard such that it will work across compilers. Is this a possiblity? If future vendors use GLADE as a base, it doesn't seem like it would be too tough to accomplish. -- T.E.D. -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Implementing Annex E (was: !!! WHERE CAN I FIND A GOOD FREE ADA 83 OR 95 COMPILER FOR MY PC ??? !!!) 1998-10-20 0:00 ` Implementing Annex E (was: !!! WHERE CAN I FIND A GOOD FREE ADA 83 OR 95 COMPILER FOR MY PC ??? !!!) dennison @ 1998-10-23 0:00 ` Joseph Wisniewski 1998-10-25 0:00 ` dewar 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Joseph Wisniewski @ 1998-10-23 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Business is business. I desperately needed one of the ASIS annexes that, as far as I know, no vendor implemented. At least no one knew of any vendor who did. Rational, in essence told me that it would be too difficult for the potential customer base, which Rational interpreted as "Who has asked us for this." Answer: No one, you are the first. Therefore there is no market. Now that determination of the "market needs" can certainly be debated, the bottom line is the reason some of the annexes don't get implemented is because someone has decided there it isn't worth it. Joe dennison@telepath.com wrote: : In article <70gdb4$bdb$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, : dewar@gnat.com wrote: : > It would be really nice to see the other Ada vendors implement all the : > optional annexes. In particular, it would be really nice to see other : > implementations of the distributed systems annex. I think this is a very : > exciting feature of Ada 95 with tremendous potential, but the full potential : > is not realized unless all Ada 95 compilers implement this feature. In : > particular, the distribution annex offers a path for convenient integration : > of Ada programs across multiple machines using different Ada compilers. : Does it really offer that kind of interoprability? According to my reading of : annex E it does not. : But given that no-one else has implemented it yet, there does appear to be : time to create a standard such that it will work across compilers. Is this a : possiblity? If future vendors use GLADE as a base, it doesn't seem like it : would be too tough to accomplish. : -- : T.E.D. : -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- : http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own -- Joe Wisniewski President, Commercial Software Solutions, Ltd. Full Onsite/Offsite Software Engineering Consulting Services Specializing in Embedded RealTime Applications and Training 4403 W. Chama Suite #101 Glendale, Arizona 85310 (Voice) 602-580-4008 888-229-7597 (Fax) 602-580-4010 888-568-8734 wisniew@primenet.com Co-Author: Program Smarter, Not Harder. Get Mission-Critical Projects Right the First Time ISBN: 0-07-021232-5 McGraw-Hill ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Implementing Annex E (was: !!! WHERE CAN I FIND A GOOD FREE ADA 83 OR 95 COMPILER FOR MY PC ??? !!!) 1998-10-23 0:00 ` Joseph Wisniewski @ 1998-10-25 0:00 ` dewar 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: dewar @ 1998-10-25 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <70r00c$slp$1@nnrp02.primenet.com>, Joseph Wisniewski <wisniew@primenet.com> wrote: > Business is business. I desperately needed one of the ASIS annexes > that, as far as I know, no vendor implemented. At least no one knew > of any vendor who did. Rational, in essence told me that it would be > too difficult for the potential customer base, which Rational interpreted > as "Who has asked us for this." Answer: No one, you are the first. > Therefore there is no market. Now that determination of the "market > needs" can certainly be debated, the bottom line is the reason some of > the annexes don't get implemented is because someone has decided there > it isn't worth it. > > Joe Yes, of course this is most certainly true. And particularly in the case of Annex E, the implementation effort is significant (we estimate that we have spent something like 10-15 person years of effort in implementing Annex E). By the way, you might want to communicate your ASIS needs to ACT. As far as I know, we have implemented pretty much all of ASIS at this stage, certainly we have implemented all annexes used by our customer base as far as I know. Robert B. K. Dewar Ada Core Technologies -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: !!! WHERE CAN I FIND A GOOD FREE ADA 83 OR 95 COMPILER FOR MY PC ??? !!! 1998-10-19 0:00 !!! WHERE CAN I FIND A GOOD FREE ADA 83 OR 95 COMPILER FOR MY PC ??? !!! Eric HILAIRE 1998-10-19 0:00 ` dewar @ 1998-10-20 0:00 ` Pierre MORERE 1998-10-21 0:00 ` Pascal MALAISE 2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Pierre MORERE @ 1998-10-20 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eric HILAIRE Hi, you could download OA for NT from http://www.aonix.com/Products/CSDS/ada.download.html If you want to receive a CDROM version of this compiler send me your address. Eric HILAIRE wrote: > Hi, > I'm looking for an ADA compiler for my PC (I'm more interested in the > 95 version but the 83 one will be a good beginning for me!) > thanXXX. > > eric.hilaire@magic.fr -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- LES PETITS DEJEUNERS AONIX ---------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quoi : Petit D�jeuner � Paris Th�me : Automatisez Le Test Logiciel Date : Mardi 17 Novembre 1998 Inscription : gueulle@aonix.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pierre Morere Presales/Consulting Engineer Phone: (33) 1 41 48 11 24 Fax: (33) 1 41 48 10 20 E-Mail: pierre.morere@aonix.fr Aonix 66-68 Av Pierre Brossolette 92247 Malakoff, France Phone: (33) 1 41 48 10 00 Fax: (33) 1 41 48 10 20 WEB: http://www.aonix.fr or http://www.aonix.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: !!! WHERE CAN I FIND A GOOD FREE ADA 83 OR 95 COMPILER FOR MY PC ??? !!! 1998-10-19 0:00 !!! WHERE CAN I FIND A GOOD FREE ADA 83 OR 95 COMPILER FOR MY PC ??? !!! Eric HILAIRE 1998-10-19 0:00 ` dewar 1998-10-20 0:00 ` !!! WHERE CAN I FIND A GOOD FREE ADA 83 OR 95 COMPILER FOR MY PC ??? !!! Pierre MORERE @ 1998-10-21 0:00 ` Pascal MALAISE 2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Pascal MALAISE @ 1998-10-21 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw) Eric HILAIRE wrote: > > Hi, > I'm looking for an ADA compiler for my PC (I'm more interested in the > 95 version but the 83 one will be a good beginning for me!) > thanXXX. Look at gnat on Linux :-) Good and free. -- Pascal MALAISE (priv) mailto:malaise@magic.fr (prof) mailto:malaise@fr.airsysatm.thomson-csf.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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