Re: Meet the new GPS...same as the old GPS...

[M E Leypold <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de>]

randomm@mindless.com writes:

> I think GPS is really dreadful.  I haven't seen anything as bad in
> years.  It's more like pre-alpha code.  If I were a paying customer I
> would be outraged.

I find everything to small and fiddly (is that an english word?). GVD
was much better if you just wanted to debug something.

As far as AdaMode goes: in my opinion a step into the right direction:
As a developer I want to see and manage source files in an efficient
way. 

Building everything else around a good text editor makes sense. Still
the debugger support is atrocious. In my memory Turbo debugger (and
the Turbo IDE) where quite good and efficient. That was 15 to 20 years
ago. It speaks volumes that I'm still looking for a debugger which has
the ease of use of Turbo Debugger for interactive debugging ...


> The main thing I'm hoping to gain from the IDE is build management for
> substantial projects.  If that's easily done in Emacs, I may forego GPS
> entirely.

Yes. Use Emacs and Gnatmake if you have pure Ada projects,
additionally use (Gnu) make if you also need to generate Ada files
from other descriptions. I'm also using Cygwin as a shell enviroment
to build on windows (logging in with ssh remotely). 

I think that is a good way to go. If you need, I can post parts of
Makefiles, build scripts, and project files, just ask specifically. 

> If some of the vendors would make it affordable for one-man development
> startups to buy their compiler and IDE, I wouldn't mind purchasing
> something.  I certainly can't spend thousands of rand at this point.

They keyword would be "community support/ shared work". Many small
startups can share their efforts to get a useful enviroment going
(probably less graphical as IDE is concerned, graphical IDEs come and
go and seem mostly for show), but nonetheless useful. And hopefully
useable as long as Ada source leaves (which is decades and much longer
than Eclipse will be around ...).

Regards -- Markus