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From: "Phlip" <new_email@see.web.page>
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated
Date: 1998/10/12
Date: 1998-10-12T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6vt32u$5mp@chronicle.concentric.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: o4jU1.27802$K02.16718724@news.teleport.com

David Franklin Reynolds wrote:
>
>Patrick May wrote:
>>Bertrand Meyer writes:

>> > `comp.object.moderated' is a blatant attempt at censoring
>> > any non-conforming view on object technology.


I was right. Nobody else on this thread replied to anything but the
first line. Irony: The first line was by a published author of books
considered seminal!

>>     The creation of comp.object.moderated is an attempt to maintain a
>>minimum level of civility in the discussion of OO technology.  The
>>charter does not allow censorship based on content.  This group has
>>been requested solely due to the pollution of comp.object by a single
>>prolific poster who makes some interesting points but wraps them in
>>flames, insults, and off-topic material.
>...
>Moderate a group because of one person? I'll vote NO. Either just skip
the
>posts, or learn how to use a filter to make them disappear
automagically.


They've tried.

Discussion fora work - much better than verbal discussion for some
topics - because after someone posts a good idea or a bad one, everyone
else elaborates on it. One post can set off a cascade of replies
containing valid and useful data. A "thread" is really a "tree".

Trolling works by exploiting this cascade effect to fill a group up with
crap. Kill-files work against unsuccessful trolls, but even if any
"critical mass" of forum subscribers kill-file a troll the group still
fills up with a cascade of useless crap. This "pollutes" a forum by
making lurkers avoid reading good posts - you never know which ones they
could be in a trolled thread.

comp.lang.c++ was moderated to provide respite endless holy wars,
repeated neophyte questions and off-topic info about hardware, libraries
and platforms. comp.object is about philosophy - the P in Ph.D. It
already does not have the problems comp.lang.c++ did. But it has
problems.

  --  Phlip at politizen dot com                  (address munged)
======= http://users.deltanet.com/~tegan/home.html =======
  --  "These days I find myself worrying about the
        International Conspiracy Against Me.

       "How can I _increase_ it??" - Phlip  --






  reply	other threads:[~1998-10-12  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-10-09  0:00 RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated Tim Ottinger
1998-10-13  0:00 ` Ell
1998-10-13  0:00   ` James Robertson
1998-10-13  0:00     ` Ell
1998-10-13  0:00       ` James Robertson
1998-10-14  0:00       ` Michi Henning
1998-10-13  0:00         ` Patrick Logan
1998-10-14  0:00           ` Sven Sass
1998-10-13  0:00         ` Ell
1998-10-13  0:00           ` Patrick Logan
1998-10-13  0:00             ` Charles Hixson
1998-10-14  0:00               ` Ell
1998-10-14  0:00             ` Ell
1998-10-14  0:00           ` Stephen Crawley
1998-10-14  0:00             ` Reality is a point of view
1998-10-14  0:00             ` Ell
1998-10-14  0:00               ` Michi Henning
1998-10-14  0:00               ` Robert Oliver
1998-10-14  0:00   ` Michi Henning
1998-10-13  0:00     ` Ell
1998-10-31  0:00 ` Ell
1999-07-29  0:00 ` Bertrand Meyer
1998-10-11  0:00   ` Joachim Durchholz
1998-10-11  0:00   ` Phlip
1998-10-12  0:00   ` Patrick May
1998-10-12  0:00     ` Jason Stokes
1998-10-12  0:00       ` Robert C. Martin
1998-10-12  0:00     ` David Franklin Reynolds
1998-10-12  0:00       ` Phlip [this message]
1998-10-12  0:00         ` Reality is a point of view
1998-10-12  0:00           ` Robert C. Martin
1998-10-13  0:00           ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-10-15  0:00             ` Patrick Doyle
1998-10-13  0:00         ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-10-12  0:00           ` Phlip
1998-10-12  0:00           ` Tim Ottinger
1998-10-13  0:00           ` Joachim Durchholz
1998-10-14  0:00       ` Patrick Doyle
1999-07-29  0:00         ` David Mescher
1999-07-29  0:00           ` J Durbin
1999-07-29  0:00           ` Jeff J. Wilson
1998-10-12  0:00     ` Avner Ben
1998-10-12  0:00       ` Jay Denebeim
1998-10-13  0:00     ` Mark Bennison
1998-10-13  0:00       ` Robert C. Martin
1998-10-13  0:00       ` Ell
1998-10-13  0:00         ` Boris Schaefer
1998-10-13  0:00         ` Patrick Logan
1998-10-13  0:00           ` Reality is a point of view
1998-10-14  0:00           ` Gerhard Menzl
1998-10-16  0:00         ` Patrick Doyle
1999-07-29  0:00       ` Jay Denebeim
1998-10-12  0:00   ` Tim Ottinger
     [not found]   ` <363314e1.131092310@enews.newsguy.com>
1998-10-14  0:00     ` Kevin Szabo
1998-10-14  0:00       ` Juergen Schlegelmilch
1998-10-14  0:00     ` Phlip
1998-10-14  0:00       ` Boris Schaefer
1999-07-29  0:00   ` REPOST ATTACK (Was: RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated) Jon Bell
1999-07-29  0:00   ` RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated Jay Denebeim
1999-07-29  0:00     ` Reposts of old news (was Re: RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated) Kathy Pascoe
1999-07-30  0:00       ` Ell
1999-07-30  0:00         ` Jason Stokes
1999-07-30  0:00           ` Jason Stokes
1999-07-30  0:00           ` Ell
1999-07-30  0:00             ` Jay Denebeim
1999-07-31  0:00               ` Ken Foskey
1999-07-30  0:00                 ` Reposts of old news Eric Clayberg
1999-07-31  0:00                 ` Reposts of old news (was Re: RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated) Ell
1999-08-05  0:00                   ` Nic
1999-08-05  0:00                     ` universe
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1998-08-27  0:00 RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated Tim Ottinger
     [not found] ` <H5oH1.634$495.190709860@newsreader.digex.net>
     [not found]   ` <35ee6ccb.0@news2.ibm.net>
1998-09-06  0:00     ` Ell
1998-09-07  0:00       ` Rolf F. Katzenberger
1998-09-07  0:00         ` Robert Martin
1998-09-08  0:00           ` Rolf F. Katzenberger
1998-09-07  0:00         ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-08  0:00           ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-17  0:00           ` Tim Ottinger
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