From: "Robert Martin" <rmartin@oma.com> Subject: Re: Which wastes more time? (Was Re: Software landmines (loops)) Date: 1998/09/05 Date: 1998-09-05T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview] Message-ID: <6srh67$sj5$1@hirame.wwa.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: 35F0C3C9.D1E56FF3@s054.aone.net.au Loryn Jenkins wrote in message <35F0C3C9.D1E56FF3@s054.aone.net.au>... > >Anyway, whether or se/se is actually what Dijkstra was on about >(actually, I think he was on about something a little bigger than se/se; >se/se seems to me to be a principle that enabled him to get where he was >wanting to go), it seems useful to me. What Dijkstra was on about was a way to make assertions about a program. He wanted this so that he could evolve formal proofs of accuracy. He states three benefits of using four control sequence primitives. The first is a shrinking of the conceptual gap between the text of the program and its function. Second, was understandability, or to put it in his terms, an attempt to make the effort needed to understand a program proportional to the length of the program. The third is the most interesting from my point of view. He said that a program structured with the four primitives establishes a "coordinate system" between the text of the program and the execution of the program. (i.e. the execution state is strongly encoded by the execution position) This third benefit of Dijkstra's is essentially the argument that I have been making in this thread, that se/se keeps threads of control separate rather than collapsing them, thus providing place holders for future modifications. >The second (counter) example is inspired by OOSCII, Chapter 12. In it, >if I recall correctly, Bertrand has class CAR_OWNER inherit from class >PERSON. (He offers this as an example of 'how to do inheritance well'.) >He implies that this is acceptable modelling for an application. Now, >while I can imagine this working for some applications, I can't believe >it is acceptable. > >I can't believe it is acceptable because it does not model our concept >of reality. Instead, it should have been modelled as a role of a person. >That is CAR_OWNER inherits from PERSON_ROLE, and PERSON_ROLE has an >attribute of type PERSON. > >Modelling it this way would have future-proofed the application against >handling situations when people in the application became car owners and >then stopped being car owners. Even if it was valid for an application, >the second is preferable, because I don't have to scratch my head, >wondering about the possible implications. I found the example in Chapter 24. Meyer is complaining about Ian Somerfield's description of multiple inheritance in his "Software Engineering" textbook. (side note: I find these unkind attacks by Meyer all too frequent. He could have just said: "I disagree with Somerfield" and left it at that.) In any case Somerfields model had CAR_OWNER multiply inheriting from CAR and PERSON. Certainly, in light of what we know today, this would not be an acceptable model. Meyer presents a model in which CAR_OWNER inherits from PERSON and uses CAR. And this is certainly a much better model. However, it is probably a mistake to take it much futher than that. Remember, this was an *example*, not a real program. We have no context to put this example in. It works for describing a poor use of multiple inheritance, but that's about it. So suggesting that Meyer's model is unacceptable is probably unsupportable. Better to say that Meyer's model has very little context, and that in certain contexts we would not want CAR_OWNER to derive from PERSON. However, I strongly sympathize with motivation. I agree that we should give thought to 'future proofing' our application structures (although I don't think that a simple reliance on real world structure actually accomplishes that goal). This motivation is a common theme running through Jacobson's work; indeed he contents that the final model will not look very much like the real world precisely because we want to make sure the model is future-proofed." Robert C. Martin | Design Consulting | Training courses offered: Object Mentor | rmartin@oma.com | Object Oriented Design 14619 N Somerset Cr | Tel: (800) 338-6716 | C++ Green Oaks IL 60048 | Fax: (847) 918-1023 | http://www.oma.com "One of the great commandments of science is: 'Mistrust arguments from authority.'" -- Carl Sagan
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1998-08-14 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful Patrick Doyle
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1998-08-16 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
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1998-08-15 0:00 ` Mr Ada
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1998-08-20 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Nick Leaton
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1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
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1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
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1998-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-11 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-08 0:00 ` adam
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
[not found] ` <gio+van+no+ni+8-1609980034390001@dialup26.tlh.talstar.com>
1998-09-16 0:00 ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-16 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Rick Smith
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Markus Kuhn
1998-09-17 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-18 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Markus Kuhn
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-10-10 0:00 ` Dave Wood
1998-10-13 0:00 ` last.first
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Brian Mueller
1998-10-23 0:00 ` midlamD
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Ell
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Ell
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Arun Mangalam
1998-10-23 0:00 ` DPH
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Michael Stark
1998-10-23 0:00 ` College, C, etc. (Was Re: Is there a language that Dijkstra liked?) Darren New
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Tom J
1998-10-23 0:00 ` K. Mathias
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1998-10-25 0:00 ` College, C, etc Frank Sergeant
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Darren New
1998-10-29 0:00 ` Graham Perkins
1998-10-29 0:00 ` Paul A. Howes
1998-10-30 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-10-30 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-10-29 0:00 ` Arun Mangalam
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Dave Wood
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Dave Wood
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Bill Ghrist
1998-10-27 0:00 ` Ell
1998-10-27 0:00 ` dewarr
[not found] ` <3 <slrn73ifd1.8ip.jdege@jdege.visi.com>
1998-10-30 0:00 ` College, C, etc Tom J
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Gautier.DeMontmollin
1998-10-11 0:00 ` Bertrand Meyer
1998-10-12 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-10-12 0:00 ` Rod Chapman
1998-10-13 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-09-17 0:00 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1998-09-17 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-21 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? Peter Hermann
1998-09-21 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-09-21 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) bengt
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) dewarr
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-17 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Robert C. Martin
1998-09-19 0:00 ` Rick Smith
1998-09-19 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-21 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1998-09-19 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-19 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-11 0:00 ` spaghetti code(was Re: Software landmines (loops)) Joe Chacko
[not found] ` <01bddfb7$f3eac320$ca3aea9e@tom>
1998-09-15 0:00 ` prochak
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Malcolm Steel
[not found] ` <o1fH1.543$495.1 <gwinn-0309982042490001@d8.dial-4.cmb.ma.ultra.net>
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1998-09-09 0:00 ` sureshvv
1998-09-10 0:00 ` prochak
1998-09-11 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-10 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
[not found] ` <01bddccc$98b2dda0$ca3aea9e@tom>
1998-09-10 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-11 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-11 0:00 ` alan walkington
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Linguistic invention (was Re: Software landmines (loops)) Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Ell
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: " Gautier.DeMontmollin
[not found] ` <6sjnlu$83l$1@hirame.wwa.c <35EE5F67.80D@gecm.com>
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Martin Tom Brown
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Rick Smith
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-02 0:00 ` adam
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Module size (was Re: Software landmines) Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Martin Tom Brown
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Christopher P. Gariepy
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Types vs classes (was Re: Module size (was Re: Software landmines)) Pat Rogers
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Juergen Schlegelmilch
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Juergen Schlegelmilch
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Module size (was Re: Software landmines) Ell
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-08 0:00 ` James Weirich
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Ken Carpenter
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Emtpy procedures (was Re: Module size (was Re: Software landmines)) Jim Cochrane
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Module size (was Re: Software landmines) Ell
1998-09-04 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Chris Kuan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Chris Kuan
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Phil Goodwin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Elliot's paranoia (was something relevent once, but no longer) Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Ell
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
[not found] ` <35F074C9.E10C <35F2E907.594CD023@earthlink.net>
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-10 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-10 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-11 0:00 ` prochak
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-12 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-13 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-14 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` dennison
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Dan Higdon
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Mid-Loop 'Until' Proposal [was: Software landmines (loops)] John G. Volan
[not found] ` <Q7UH1.3152$re2.302134@news.giganews.com>
[not found] ` <35F2E055.6922B7EC@earthlink.net>
1998-09-06 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) adam
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Mike Spille
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Richard MacDonald
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Phil Goodwin
[not found] ` <gio+van+no+ni+8-0309982311220001@dialup62.tlh.talstar.com>
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` john-clonts
1998-09-03 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Oliver
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Oliver
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` sureshvv
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-02 0:00 ` john-clonts
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Darren New
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Adrian P. Morgan
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-10 0:00 ` mfinney
[not found] ` <gio+van+no+ni+8-1609981736190001@dialup47.tlh.talstar.com>
1998-09-17 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-07 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-11 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-07 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
[not found] ` <m31zpq4pim.fsf@mheaney.ni.ne <m3af36wtwh.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-10-11 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Expressive Case Statements (was: Software landmines) Fergus Henderson
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Jonas M�ls�
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <6t6l4n$rep@jbm.nada.kth.se>
1998-09-10 0:00 ` Mats Weber
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
[not found] ` <m3ogt3qgca.fsf@mheaney.ni.n <1dghyt5.oik1lzhxzf2N@n207167116176.inetworld.net>
1998-10-10 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-10-12 0:00 ` Charles H. Sampson
1998-10-13 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-10-14 0:00 ` Graham Perkins
1998-10-15 0:00 ` Reimer Behrends
1998-10-15 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-10-15 0:00 ` Indicators of program quality? (was Re: Software landmines) Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-20 0:00 ` Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful) Dan Higdon
[not found] ` <m33eagru5g.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Frank Adrian
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Biju Thomas
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Martin Dowie
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-02 0:00 ` dennison
1998-09-01 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Jonathan Guthrie
1998-08-20 0:00 ` Ell
1998-08-20 0:00 ` Structured programming (Re: Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful)) Darren New
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Gene Gajewski
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful) Ell
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Larry Brasfield
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Bob Collins
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Ell
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-20 0:00 ` Phlip
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Larry Brasfield
[not found] ` <DOSXjHE9T6DM9Jw9nAyaPxfz@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com>
1998-08-22 0:00 ` dewar
1998-08-24 0:00 ` Martin Dowie
1998-08-24 0:00 ` Martin Dowie
1998-08-24 0:00 ` Mark A Biggar
1998-08-25 0:00 ` Martin Dowie
1998-08-25 0:00 ` Mark A Biggar
1998-08-26 0:00 ` Martin Dowie
1998-08-25 0:00 ` adam
1998-08-24 0:00 ` dennison
1998-08-28 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-28 0:00 ` dennison
1998-08-30 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-06 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-22 0:00 ` Charles H. Sampson
1998-08-21 0:00 ` John Goodsen
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Ell
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Ell
[not found] ` <l5HC1.6840$wN.18 <35F238F7.F57D3EC7@earthlink.net>
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Patrick Doyle
1998-10-21 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Van Snyder
1998-10-22 0:00 ` biocyn
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1998-10-26 0:00 ` dennison
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-10-27 0:00 ` dennison
1998-10-27 0:00 ` Dave Wood
1998-10-28 0:00 ` norm
1998-10-27 0:00 ` bill
1998-10-27 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-10-27 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1998-11-04 0:00 ` business for students Domenico Bisignano
1998-08-19 0:00 ` Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful) Charles Hixson
1998-08-20 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
1998-08-11 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful stilcom
1998-08-11 0:00 ` Microsoft Authors [was Re: Why C++ is successful] john-clonts
1998-08-11 0:00 ` dennison
1998-08-11 0:00 ` John Weiss
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Code Complete (Was: Re: Why C++ is successful) Chris Kuan
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful Andrew Koenig
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Stefan Tilkov
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <m31zpxqutn.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Jim Cochrane
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Richard Melvin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <35EC1590.D50DB8F6@tisny.com>
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <6shunm$47g$1@hirame.wwa.com>
1998-09-02 0:00 ` David E. Wallace
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <m3zpck79xp.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <6shhg4$llp$1@hirame.wwa.com>
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <6sjms6$7c4$1@hirame.wwa.com>
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <904556531. <m3lno372be.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <35EDC648.76F03F32@draper.com>
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Tim McDermott
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Tim McDermott
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Reimer Behrends
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Martin Tom Brown
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <35F09429.1A7CD250@easystreet.com>
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Expressive Case Statements (was: Software landmines) Michael F Brenner
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <35EC937F.94420C51@ibm.net>
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Michael F Brenner
[not found] ` <35f51e53.480 <904556531.66622 <EyyLos.2nx@yc.estec.esa.nl>
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-09 0:00 ` duncan
1998-09-11 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-11 0:00 ` duncan
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-10 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-08 0:00 ` duncan
1998-09-16 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Reimer Behrends
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Ell
[not found] ` <35f51e53.480<904556531.666222@ <6t42kg$son$1@hirame.wwa.com>
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-08-07 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful Jason Stokes
1998-08-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-10 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-11 0:00 ` n
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful? Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1998-08-13 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Bob Munck
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-14 0:00 ` nasser
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1998-08-17 0:00 ` asilvant
1998-08-17 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-13 0:00 ` Bob Munck
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <35D455AC.9225EAA7@hercii.mar.lmco.com>
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Robert L. Spooner
1998-08-10 0:00 ` Darren New
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