Re: A Simple struct vs a convoluted class object.

["John Goodsen" <jgoodsen@saguarosoft.com>]

Tim Ottinger wrote in message <35B48E17.12228895@oma.com>...
>> You have me at an advantage here, are you suggesting that there exist
>> today optimizing compilers for Smalltalk or Eiffel or Java that outdo
>> C++ ? My comment was meant to indicate that while one may reasonably
>> make many critisisms of C++ I had just never heard anyone claim it was
>> slow ...
>
>I've heard it, but I've not heard it justly applied. Usually when C++ isnot
fast
>enough, it's because it was written inefficiently or (more often)
>it's a complaint against new/delete as provided by the compiler vendor.
>Admittedly, copying huge objects is slow (that's why we don't do it),
>and the malloc implementation of new is typically slow. One issue is
>a quality of code issue, another a quality of implementation issue.
>


There were some studies done a few years ago back on Ada compiler
optimization and it showed that Ada compilers have the ability to
optimize *MUCH* better than a C compiler, because of the strong
language definition.  I cross-posted this to comp.lang.ada, in hopes
that somebody from that zone might respond...

I suspect that Eiffel and Java have the same potential.  I'm not sure
about Smalltalk, with it's dynamic typing and all ... what does it mean
to "compile" smalltalk - I can't imagine the dynamic typing optimizing
faster than a statically typed language...

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