From: Diogenes <phathax0r@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Runtime startup code for the GNAT Runtime...and a bit of humble pie.
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:10:43 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2013-03-27T14:10:43-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6e2beaab-5d23-48c8-84c2-1729e245cd6e@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <kivg1r$h53$1@munin.nbi.dk>
On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 3:07:37 PM UTC-4, Randy Brukardt wrote:
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> That's obviously compiler-specific (and probably specific to particular
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> compiler versions as well). You need to specify a compiler and version to
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> have any hope of a useful answer. (Certainly the answer is wildly different
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> for Janus/Ada vs. GNAT vs. ObjectAda.)
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> I really wouldn't expect such a list to exist. We don't have one for
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> Janus/Ada, for instance; it's certainly the case that there are many things
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> that require minimal runtime support but we've never had any reason to
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> figure it out.
I was considering the bootstrapping procedure actually. I was curious if it was possible to do the actual startup code in Ada, with maybe a little Assembler thrown in.
No doubt that it's compiler specific. I'm using GNAT/GCC 4.4
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> Janus/Ada always assumes a small runtime. Since we provide the complete
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> source code to the runtime in the professional packages, and the code
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> includes a number of minimal support switches, you could make a version that
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> requires nothing but memory setup and some form of "put_line" without too
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> much trouble. (We used to sell embedded versions for bare 16-bit processors,
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> but that business didn't translate to 32-bit processors.) I suspect that the
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> situation is similar for GNAT.
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> As far as correctness goes, that's what the ACATS is for. (Figuring out how
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> to run it on a bare machine might be interesting, however.) It won't prove
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> that absolutely everything works, but you'll get a fair certainty that you
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> didn't make any major mistakes.
Combine that with the SPARK tools and I can be even more certain.
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> Randy.
Diogenes
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2013-03-18 20:59 Runtime startup code for the GNAT Runtime...and a bit of humble pie Diogenes
2013-03-18 21:14 ` Robert A Duff
2013-03-19 0:07 ` Diogenes
2013-03-19 10:04 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-19 12:51 ` Simon Clubley
2013-03-19 18:16 ` Ludovic Brenta
2013-03-20 1:05 ` Simon Clubley
2013-03-20 10:13 ` Mike H
2013-03-20 20:44 ` Ludovic Brenta
2013-03-19 21:43 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-03-20 8:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-03-21 0:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-03-21 19:08 ` Shark8
2013-03-21 23:34 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-03-22 16:39 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-03-23 10:56 ` Thomas Løcke
2013-03-19 23:13 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-20 0:54 ` Simon Clubley
2013-03-20 11:50 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-20 13:18 ` Simon Clubley
2013-03-26 11:04 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-26 22:38 ` Simon Clubley
2013-03-27 11:34 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-27 14:38 ` Simon Clubley
2013-03-27 22:58 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-20 14:17 ` Lucretia
2013-03-20 15:00 ` Lucretia
2013-03-21 16:39 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-23 4:35 ` Diogenes
2013-03-26 21:27 ` Diogenes
2013-03-26 21:57 ` Shark8
2013-03-27 0:28 ` Diogenes
2013-03-27 2:27 ` Shark8
2013-03-27 10:05 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-27 12:23 ` Simon Wright
2013-03-27 19:07 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-03-27 21:10 ` Diogenes [this message]
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