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From: "Frank A. Adrian" <frank_adrian@firstdatabank.com>
Subject: Re: Which language pays most -- C++ vs. Java?
Date: 1998/02/12
Date: 1998-02-12T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6bv72g$h7v$1@client2.news.psi.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 6bv3no$b62@clarknet.clark.net


docdwarf@clark.net wrote in message <6bv3no$b62@clarknet.clark.net>...
>In article <6bti3r$e96$1@client3.news.psi.net>,
>Frank A. Adrian <frank_adrian@firstdatabank.com> wrote:
>>In short, lighten up, Mr. Language Pedant.
>
>Mr?  Why do you call me 'Mr'?  Permit me to offer you a challenge, Mr
>Adrian... I say there is a simple, readily accepted substitute for this
>instance of antecedant/consequent disagreement.  I say, further, that you
>can neither generate it yourself nor, after I generate it, give any
>passable reason as to *why* this antecedant/consequent disagreement is
>superior to the alternative that you are obviously unable to generate.

To be honest, I cannot find a solution that sounds superior to my ears than
the use of the plural "they".  Even though others have proposed
alternatives, they have generally been rebuffed by the only court that holds
sway in the linguistic realm, the court of common usage.  As I see the
current situation being satisfactory, I have no need to lower myself to the
level of your suposed challenge.  If you find the situation intolerable, I
apologize about and withdraw my objection to your post and will certainly
not stand in your way as you make a braying ass of yourself about the
matter.

>Are you up to the challenge, Mr Adrian?  Do you say there is *no*
>acceptable alternative to the above cited  disagreement... or that the
>failure to find one is just a matter of laziness?

I admit neither.  Perhaps there is an acceptable alternative.  Perhaps there
is not.  The fact that there is no acceptable alternative NOW, I will not
ascribe to laziness.  I might ascribe it to inertia or a lack of concern on
the part of English speakers, but in any case, I find the status quo with
respect to the issue (i.e., overloading use of the plural to also mean the
sex-neutral singular case) quite satisfactory.  I have no need to search for
this chimerical solution you prattle on about.  If you have a problem with
common usage, please go ahead with your Quixotic quest, friend.
--
Frank A. Adrian
First DataBank
frank_adrian@firstdatabank.com (W)
franka@europa.com (H)
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  reply	other threads:[~1998-02-12  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-01-30  0:00 Which language pays most -- C++ vs. Java? scott
1998-01-30  0:00 ` James Giles
1998-01-30  0:00 ` Charles W. Hall
1998-01-30  0:00   ` Kaz Kylheku
1998-01-30  0:00     ` Art/Jeannie Daly
1998-01-30  0:00     ` Jahfre
1998-02-02  0:00     ` Ian Chivers
1999-07-29  0:00     ` Edwin Purvee
1999-07-30  0:00       ` Kaz Kylheku
1999-07-30  0:00         ` Paul Mesken
1998-02-18  0:00   ` Mad Hamish
1998-02-17  0:00     ` Dennis Weldy
1998-02-18  0:00     ` mei
1998-02-18  0:00       ` Charles W. Hall
1998-02-19  0:00     ` Rennie Allen
1998-02-10  0:00 ` Graham Broadbridge
1998-02-10  0:00   ` dogmat
1998-02-11  0:00     ` Richard Kenner
1998-02-11  0:00       ` The Goobers
1998-02-11  0:00         ` Frank A. Adrian
1998-02-12  0:00           ` Peter Hermann
1998-02-12  0:00           ` docdwarf
1998-02-12  0:00             ` Frank A. Adrian [this message]
1998-02-12  0:00               ` docdwarf
1998-02-12  0:00                 ` Frank A. Adrian
1998-02-12  0:00                   ` docdwarf
1998-02-12  0:00                     ` dogmat
1998-02-13  0:00                       ` Ethics Gradient
1998-02-13  0:00                     ` Steven B Mohler
1998-02-18  0:00                       ` Mad Hamish
1998-02-14  0:00                     ` Richard Kenner
1998-02-14  0:00                       ` The Goobers
1998-02-13  0:00             ` Steven B Mohler
1998-02-14  0:00               ` The Goobers
1998-02-13  0:00             ` Ethics Gradient
1998-02-15  0:00               ` Flaagg
1998-02-16  0:00                 ` The Goobers
1998-02-16  0:00                   ` Flaagg
1998-02-16  0:00                     ` The Goobers
1998-02-17  0:00                       ` Flaagg
1998-02-17  0:00                         ` The Goobers
1998-02-17  0:00                     ` Anthony Jenkins
1998-02-18  0:00                       ` Sakurambo
1998-02-19  0:00                         ` Dave Hillstrom
1998-02-19  0:00                         ` Vinay Mutha
1998-02-20  0:00                           ` WeeSaul
1998-02-21  0:00                             ` Sakurambo
1998-02-21  0:00                               ` The Goobers
1998-02-16  0:00               ` WeeSaul
1998-02-13  0:00           ` Ethics Gradient
1998-02-19  0:00             ` Paulo Pena
1998-02-19  0:00               ` Dik T. Winter
1998-02-19  0:00                 ` D J Mann
1998-02-19  0:00                   ` Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **
1998-02-19  0:00                   ` Kaz Kylheku
     [not found]                     ` <6cigl4$m11@news.Hawaii.Edu>
1998-02-20  0:00                       ` Paul Stevenson
1998-02-20  0:00                         ` The Goobers
1998-03-02  0:00             ` Mailuser
1998-02-12  0:00         ` Eric Clayberg
1998-02-11  0:00           ` Dietmar Stumpe
1998-02-11  0:00             ` Patricia Shanahan
1998-02-12  0:00               ` Chris Gray
1998-02-12  0:00               ` Michael Entwistle
1998-02-12  0:00                 ` docdwarf
1998-02-12  0:00             ` docdwarf
1998-02-12  0:00             ` Michael Rubenstein
1998-02-12  0:00               ` docdwarf
1998-02-12  0:00                 ` Michael Rubenstein
1998-02-12  0:00                   ` The Goobers
1998-02-12  0:00               ` James Giles
1998-02-12  0:00                 ` Michael Rubenstein
1998-02-12  0:00                   ` James Giles
1998-02-13  0:00                     ` Michael Rubenstein
1998-02-13  0:00                       ` James Giles
1998-02-17  0:00                         ` K. C. Putnam
1998-02-17  0:00                           ` gypsy
1998-02-13  0:00                       ` Benz
1998-02-13  0:00               ` Tor Iver Wilhelmsen
1998-02-12  0:00             ` Stephen Taylor
1998-02-12  0:00               ` John W. Lewellen
1998-02-12  0:00           ` docdwarf
     [not found]             ` <01bd37cf$fa30c4e0$56dacdcf@ms112188.mindspring.com>
1998-02-12  0:00               ` docdwarf
1998-02-12  0:00                 ` Michael Rot13 Klein
1998-02-12  0:00                   ` The Goobers
1998-02-12  0:00         ` Will Rose
1998-02-12  0:00           ` docdwarf
     [not found]             ` <01bd3803$441d4c30$ee6de288@ato-10098>
1998-02-13  0:00               ` Jeff York
1998-02-13  0:00                 ` docdwarf
1998-02-13  0:00                   ` M.L. Scott
1998-02-13  0:00                     ` The Goobers
1998-02-13  0:00               ` The Goobers
1998-02-16  0:00             ` tgg
1998-02-16  0:00               ` The Goobers
1998-02-16  0:00             ` tgg
1998-02-16  0:00               ` The Goobers
1998-02-17  0:00                 ` martin dowie
1998-02-14  0:00       ` cyanide
1998-02-17  0:00       ` Joseph T. Adams
1998-02-17  0:00         ` Richard Kenner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1997-12-19  0:00 Which language pays most 17457 " James Giles
1997-12-22  0:00 ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-12-21  0:00   ` James Giles
1997-12-28  0:00     ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-12-30  0:00       ` paulr
1997-12-31  0:00         ` Which language pays most " arnie sherman
1997-12-30  0:00           ` Dann Corbit
1997-12-31  0:00           ` John Slaman
     [not found]             ` <01bd198f$4050d960$68c8b5cc@dhite.unicomp.net>
1998-01-06  0:00               ` Jedi
1998-01-10  0:00               ` Highlander Consulting
1998-01-11  0:00                 ` Patricia Shanahan
1998-01-11  0:00                   ` Barrabazz
1998-01-11  0:00                     ` Patricia Shanahan
1998-01-12  0:00                     ` Ron Peterson
1998-01-14  0:00                       ` anonymous
1998-01-19  0:00                         ` Joe Gwinn
     [not found]                           ` <01bd2526$66b70fa0$d6d945cf@juddesk>
1998-01-23  0:00                             ` dnns
1998-01-27  0:00                               ` Robert Garskof
1998-01-28  0:00                           ` Steve Dekorte
1998-01-28  0:00                             ` Barrabazz
1998-01-28  0:00                               ` dogmat
1998-01-29  0:00                                 ` Joe Gwinn
1998-01-29  0:00                                   ` coryb
1998-01-29  0:00                                   ` Wayne L. Beavers
1998-01-29  0:00                                     ` Frank A. Adrian
1998-02-03  0:00                                     ` GLE
1998-02-03  0:00                                       ` Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **
1998-02-03  0:00                                       ` The Goobers
1998-01-30  0:00                                   ` Robert S. White
1998-01-30  0:00                                     ` Patricia Shanahan
1998-01-31  0:00                                     ` Paul Van Bellinghen
1998-02-01  0:00                                       ` Nick Roberts
1998-02-09  0:00                                   ` cyanide
1998-02-10  0:00                                     ` Bill Lynch
1998-02-10  0:00                                       ` Michael Rot13 Klein
1998-02-10  0:00                                       ` Jeff Knaggs
1998-02-10  0:00                                     ` dogmat
1998-01-29  0:00                                 ` Tim Oxler
1998-01-29  0:00                                 ` Tim Oxler
1998-02-09  0:00                                 ` cyanide
1998-02-10  0:00                                   ` dogmat
1999-07-29  0:00                                 ` Edwin Purvee
     [not found]                               ` <01bd2c3c$6726d520$8101b8c7@MIS-RKW95.spartan.com>
1998-02-10  0:00                                 ` Steve Dekorte
1998-02-10  0:00                                   ` Bill Lynch
1998-02-11  0:00                                   ` dogmat
1998-01-29  0:00                             ` Joe Gwinn
1998-01-31  0:00                           ` Larry Wiggins
1999-07-29  0:00                             ` Ben Pfaff
1999-07-29  0:00                               ` Kaz Kylheku
     [not found]                           ` <6alu5l$onm$1@owl.slip <01bd2c3c$6726d520$8101b8c7@MIS-RKW95.spartan.com>
1998-02-02  0:00                             ` Kaz Kylheku
1998-02-02  0:00                               ` Michael C. Kasten
     [not found]                           ` <6alu5l$onm$1@owl.slip <34E0D798.E29D6CA0@cableol.co.uk>
1998-02-11  0:00                             ` Kaz Kylheku
     [not found]                         ` <gwinn-1901981219520001@dh5055142. <34CE059C.634DE881@snet.com>
1998-01-27  0:00                           ` Kaz Kylheku
1998-01-28  0:00                             ` Robert Garskof
1998-02-09  0:00                       ` cyanide
1998-01-11  0:00                 ` Kaz Kylheku
1998-01-11  0:00                   ` Carsten Arnholm
1998-01-15  0:00                   ` Highlander Consulting
1998-01-16  0:00                   ` Charles F Hankel
1999-08-09  0:00                   ` Paul Groves
1999-08-09  0:00                     ` Kaz Kylheku
1998-01-02  0:00           ` Philip Hunt
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