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From: docdwarf@clark.net ()
Subject: Re: Which language pays most -- C++ vs. Java?
Date: 1998/02/12
Date: 1998-02-12T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6bv3no$b62@clarknet.clark.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 6bti3r$e96$1@client3.news.psi.net


In article <6bti3r$e96$1@client3.news.psi.net>,
Frank A. Adrian <frank_adrian@firstdatabank.com> wrote:
>The Goobers wrote in message <34E23B11.6AD8@erols.com>...
>>Richard Kenner wrote:
>>>
>>> The more a "programmer" knows, the more "well rounded" they are.
>>> I see no reason to set a limit to knowlege in any field: it's always
>>> better to know more than to know less.
>>
>>BLEARGH!
>>
>>Read this sentence again, please:
>>
>> 'The more a "programmer" knows, the more "well rounded" they are.'
>>
>>I realise that you are trying to avoid sex-specification ('The more a
>>"programmer" knows, the mofe "well rounded" he/she is.') but you BOTCHED
>>it... now, repeat after me:
>>
>>'Antecedants must agree with their consequent.'
>>
>>Notice the subtle ha-ha in this 'rule'?  'Antecedants' and 'their' are
>>plurals, 'consequent' is a singular... is make for good joke to
>>remembering Eenglish to be doing by, no?
>>
>>In your sentence 'programmer' is singular, 'knows' is singular, 'they'
>>and 'are' am be pluralismers.
>>
>>What *are* they teaching in schools nowadays?
>>
>
>*They* are teaching that in order to be politically correct in this day and
>age, in order to sooth ruffled feathers of those who insist on sex neutral
>language, one must sometimes wrinkle the ears of fuddy-duddy language
>purists with circumlocutions such as the sentence that caused you to go
>"BLEARGH!"

At times, perhaps, this 'must' be done... in this case I can think of a
readily acceptable substitute.  Is an abhorrence of lazy thinking another
symptom of that which you lable 'fuddy-duddiness'?

> In some cases, other fuddy-duddy language purists' ears wrinkle
>upon hearing the phrase "his/her" or (even more noveau) the sex neutral
>linguistic proposal "te or tis".  And, although most fuddy-duddy language
>purists *would* prefer that the whole sex-neutral language issue would go
>away allowing us to revert to good old masculine singular as a generic
>singular term for a person, as with sex the controversy appears to be here
>for quite a while longer.
>
>In short, lighten up, Mr. Language Pedant.

Mr?  Why do you call me 'Mr'?  Permit me to offer you a challenge, Mr
Adrian... I say there is a simple, readily accepted substitute for this
instance of antecedant/consequent disagreement.  I say, further, that you
can neither generate it yourself nor, after I generate it, give any
passable reason as to *why* this antecedant/consequent disagreement is
superior to the alternative that you are obviously unable to generate.

Are you up to the challenge, Mr Adrian?  Do you say there is *no*
acceptable alternative to the abovecited disagreement... or that the
failure to find one is just a matter of laziness?

DD


 >--
>Frank A. Adrian
>First DataBank
>frank_adrian@firstdatabank.com (W)
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>
>
>






  parent reply	other threads:[~1998-02-12  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-01-30  0:00 Which language pays most -- C++ vs. Java? scott
1998-01-30  0:00 ` Charles W. Hall
1998-01-30  0:00   ` Kaz Kylheku
1998-01-30  0:00     ` Art/Jeannie Daly
1998-01-30  0:00     ` Jahfre
1998-02-02  0:00     ` Ian Chivers
1999-07-29  0:00     ` Edwin Purvee
1999-07-30  0:00       ` Kaz Kylheku
1999-07-30  0:00         ` Paul Mesken
1998-02-18  0:00   ` Mad Hamish
1998-02-17  0:00     ` Dennis Weldy
1998-02-18  0:00     ` mei
1998-02-18  0:00       ` Charles W. Hall
1998-02-19  0:00     ` Rennie Allen
1998-01-30  0:00 ` James Giles
1998-02-10  0:00 ` Graham Broadbridge
1998-02-10  0:00   ` dogmat
1998-02-11  0:00     ` Richard Kenner
1998-02-11  0:00       ` The Goobers
1998-02-11  0:00         ` Frank A. Adrian
1998-02-12  0:00           ` Peter Hermann
1998-02-12  0:00           ` docdwarf [this message]
1998-02-12  0:00             ` Frank A. Adrian
1998-02-12  0:00               ` docdwarf
1998-02-12  0:00                 ` Frank A. Adrian
1998-02-12  0:00                   ` docdwarf
1998-02-12  0:00                     ` dogmat
1998-02-13  0:00                       ` Ethics Gradient
1998-02-13  0:00                     ` Steven B Mohler
1998-02-18  0:00                       ` Mad Hamish
1998-02-14  0:00                     ` Richard Kenner
1998-02-14  0:00                       ` The Goobers
1998-02-13  0:00             ` Ethics Gradient
1998-02-15  0:00               ` Flaagg
1998-02-16  0:00                 ` The Goobers
1998-02-16  0:00                   ` Flaagg
1998-02-16  0:00                     ` The Goobers
1998-02-17  0:00                       ` Flaagg
1998-02-17  0:00                         ` The Goobers
1998-02-17  0:00                     ` Anthony Jenkins
1998-02-18  0:00                       ` Sakurambo
1998-02-19  0:00                         ` Vinay Mutha
1998-02-20  0:00                           ` WeeSaul
1998-02-21  0:00                             ` Sakurambo
1998-02-21  0:00                               ` The Goobers
1998-02-19  0:00                         ` Dave Hillstrom
1998-02-16  0:00               ` WeeSaul
1998-02-13  0:00             ` Steven B Mohler
1998-02-14  0:00               ` The Goobers
1998-02-13  0:00           ` Ethics Gradient
1998-02-19  0:00             ` Paulo Pena
1998-02-19  0:00               ` Dik T. Winter
1998-02-19  0:00                 ` D J Mann
1998-02-19  0:00                   ` Kaz Kylheku
     [not found]                     ` <6cigl4$m11@news.Hawaii.Edu>
1998-02-20  0:00                       ` Paul Stevenson
1998-02-20  0:00                         ` The Goobers
1998-02-19  0:00                   ` Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **
1998-03-02  0:00             ` Mailuser
1998-02-12  0:00         ` Eric Clayberg
1998-02-11  0:00           ` Dietmar Stumpe
1998-02-11  0:00             ` Patricia Shanahan
1998-02-12  0:00               ` Michael Entwistle
1998-02-12  0:00                 ` docdwarf
1998-02-12  0:00               ` Chris Gray
1998-02-12  0:00             ` Stephen Taylor
1998-02-12  0:00               ` John W. Lewellen
1998-02-12  0:00             ` docdwarf
1998-02-12  0:00             ` Michael Rubenstein
1998-02-12  0:00               ` docdwarf
1998-02-12  0:00                 ` Michael Rubenstein
1998-02-12  0:00                   ` The Goobers
1998-02-12  0:00               ` James Giles
1998-02-12  0:00                 ` Michael Rubenstein
1998-02-12  0:00                   ` James Giles
1998-02-13  0:00                     ` Michael Rubenstein
1998-02-13  0:00                       ` James Giles
1998-02-17  0:00                         ` K. C. Putnam
1998-02-17  0:00                           ` gypsy
1998-02-13  0:00                       ` Benz
1998-02-13  0:00               ` Tor Iver Wilhelmsen
1998-02-12  0:00           ` docdwarf
     [not found]             ` <01bd37cf$fa30c4e0$56dacdcf@ms112188.mindspring.com>
1998-02-12  0:00               ` docdwarf
1998-02-12  0:00                 ` Michael Rot13 Klein
1998-02-12  0:00                   ` The Goobers
1998-02-12  0:00         ` Will Rose
1998-02-12  0:00           ` docdwarf
     [not found]             ` <01bd3803$441d4c30$ee6de288@ato-10098>
1998-02-13  0:00               ` Jeff York
1998-02-13  0:00                 ` docdwarf
1998-02-13  0:00                   ` M.L. Scott
1998-02-13  0:00                     ` The Goobers
1998-02-13  0:00               ` The Goobers
1998-02-16  0:00             ` tgg
1998-02-16  0:00               ` The Goobers
1998-02-16  0:00             ` tgg
1998-02-16  0:00               ` The Goobers
1998-02-17  0:00                 ` martin dowie
1998-02-14  0:00       ` cyanide
1998-02-17  0:00       ` Joseph T. Adams
1998-02-17  0:00         ` Richard Kenner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1997-12-19  0:00 Which language pays most 17457 " James Giles
1997-12-22  0:00 ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-12-21  0:00   ` James Giles
1997-12-28  0:00     ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-12-30  0:00       ` paulr
1997-12-31  0:00         ` Which language pays most " arnie sherman
1997-12-30  0:00           ` Dann Corbit
1997-12-31  0:00           ` John Slaman
     [not found]             ` <01bd198f$4050d960$68c8b5cc@dhite.unicomp.net>
1998-01-06  0:00               ` Jedi
1998-01-10  0:00               ` Highlander Consulting
1998-01-11  0:00                 ` Kaz Kylheku
1998-01-11  0:00                   ` Carsten Arnholm
1998-01-15  0:00                   ` Highlander Consulting
1998-01-16  0:00                   ` Charles F Hankel
1999-08-09  0:00                   ` Paul Groves
1999-08-09  0:00                     ` Kaz Kylheku
1998-01-11  0:00                 ` Patricia Shanahan
1998-01-11  0:00                   ` Barrabazz
1998-01-11  0:00                     ` Patricia Shanahan
1998-01-12  0:00                     ` Ron Peterson
1998-01-14  0:00                       ` anonymous
1998-01-19  0:00                         ` Joe Gwinn
     [not found]                           ` <01bd2526$66b70fa0$d6d945cf@juddesk>
1998-01-23  0:00                             ` dnns
1998-01-27  0:00                               ` Robert Garskof
1998-01-28  0:00                           ` Steve Dekorte
1998-01-28  0:00                             ` Barrabazz
1998-01-28  0:00                               ` dogmat
1998-01-29  0:00                                 ` Joe Gwinn
1998-01-29  0:00                                   ` Wayne L. Beavers
1998-01-29  0:00                                     ` Frank A. Adrian
1998-02-03  0:00                                     ` GLE
1998-02-03  0:00                                       ` Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG **
1998-02-03  0:00                                       ` The Goobers
1998-01-29  0:00                                   ` coryb
1998-01-30  0:00                                   ` Robert S. White
1998-01-30  0:00                                     ` Patricia Shanahan
1998-01-31  0:00                                     ` Paul Van Bellinghen
1998-02-01  0:00                                       ` Nick Roberts
1998-02-09  0:00                                   ` cyanide
1998-02-10  0:00                                     ` dogmat
1998-02-10  0:00                                     ` Bill Lynch
1998-02-10  0:00                                       ` Jeff Knaggs
1998-02-10  0:00                                       ` Michael Rot13 Klein
1998-01-29  0:00                                 ` Tim Oxler
1998-01-29  0:00                                 ` Tim Oxler
1998-02-09  0:00                                 ` cyanide
1998-02-10  0:00                                   ` dogmat
1999-07-29  0:00                                 ` Edwin Purvee
     [not found]                               ` <01bd2c3c$6726d520$8101b8c7@MIS-RKW95.spartan.com>
1998-02-10  0:00                                 ` Steve Dekorte
1998-02-10  0:00                                   ` Bill Lynch
1998-02-11  0:00                                   ` dogmat
1998-01-29  0:00                             ` Joe Gwinn
1998-01-31  0:00                           ` Larry Wiggins
1999-07-29  0:00                             ` Ben Pfaff
1999-07-29  0:00                               ` Kaz Kylheku
     [not found]                           ` <6alu5l$onm$1@owl.slip <01bd2c3c$6726d520$8101b8c7@MIS-RKW95.spartan.com>
1998-02-02  0:00                             ` Kaz Kylheku
1998-02-02  0:00                               ` Michael C. Kasten
     [not found]                           ` <6alu5l$onm$1@owl.slip <34E0D798.E29D6CA0@cableol.co.uk>
1998-02-11  0:00                             ` Kaz Kylheku
     [not found]                         ` <gwinn-1901981219520001@dh5055142. <34CE059C.634DE881@snet.com>
1998-01-27  0:00                           ` Kaz Kylheku
1998-01-28  0:00                             ` Robert Garskof
1998-02-09  0:00                       ` cyanide
1998-01-02  0:00           ` Philip Hunt
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