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From: "AG" <ang@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: Re: Quality (Re: status of PL/I as a viable language)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 10:51:01 -0800
Date: 2003-03-02T10:51:01-08:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6V98a.113960$F63.2447189@news.xtra.co.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: AY28a.143$X63.104@read3.inet.fi


"Anders Wirzenius" <anders.wirzenius@pp.qnet.fi> wrote in message
news:AY28a.143$X63.104@read3.inet.fi...
>
> "Anders Wirzenius" <anders.wirzenius@pp.qnet.fi> wrote in message
news:MV28a.141$X63.124@read3.inet.fi...
> > "AG" <ang@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
news:n%T7a.112532$F63.2422763@news.xtra.co.nz...
> > >
> > > "Anders Wirzenius" <anders.wirzenius@pp.qnet.fi> wrote in message
> > > news:mCH6a.102$8M5.44@read3.inet.fi...
> > >
> > >
> > > > The paradoxality lies in that you never can avoid the situation of
"First
> > > Do It And Then Test What You Have Done".
> > >
> > > Hmmm, jump off the tall building perhaps? Wanna do some tests?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > So how do YOU build in quality "jumping off the tall building"? ;-)
> >
> > Anders
> >
>
> Sorry, failed the test:
>
> Should have written: So how do YOU build in quality in "jumping off the
tall building"?
>
Well, if I had to try that for some reason I would make darn sure that the
ropes are
strong and there are multiple ropes just in case one of them fails and there
is a safety net
somewhere along the way to the ground. You may say that testing the ropes is
a test - yes
it is but it's totally separate from testing the whole thing. The same ropes
could be used
to rig a sailing boat say. That's what built-in quality means - by the time
you try to test it
it's way too late.





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2003-02-20 15:49                 ` status of PL/I as a viable language Richard Riehle
2003-02-20 16:26                   ` Donald L. Dobbs
2003-02-20 17:15                     ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-21  6:24                     ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-02-21 18:44                       ` John R. Strohm
2003-02-20 17:58                   ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-20 18:44                     ` John R. Strohm
2003-02-20 19:09                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-02-20 19:27                         ` John R. Strohm
2003-02-20 19:48                           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-20 21:12                             ` John R. Strohm
2003-02-20 21:39                           ` Bobby D. Bryant
2003-02-21 20:36                             ` Randy Brukardt
2003-02-21  8:33                           ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2003-02-20 19:34                       ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-20 19:52                         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-02-20 20:14                           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-20 21:20                             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-02-21  8:14                             ` Ondřej Tučný
2003-02-21 14:54                               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-21 15:05                                 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-02-21 15:55                                 ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-21 16:45                                   ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-21 17:40                                     ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-21 17:44                                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-21 18:10                                       ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-21 18:38                                         ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-21 18:40                                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-21 18:52                                           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-21 19:24                                             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-02-21 19:57                                               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-21 20:37                                                 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-02-21 20:55                                               ` Randy Brukardt
2003-02-21 18:42                                         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-02-21 18:48                                 ` John R. Strohm
2003-02-21 20:22                                 ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-21 20:51                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2003-02-21 21:29                                   ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-21 21:44                                     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-02-23  5:05                                       ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-24 16:29                                         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-02-22 11:06                                   ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-23 22:04                                     ` tmoran
2003-02-24  9:32                                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-02  2:37                                         ` AG
2003-03-01 13:46                                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-03  0:57                                             ` AG
2003-03-02 12:40                                               ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-02 16:52                                                 ` John R. Strohm
2003-03-03  0:19                                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-03-03  3:03                                                     ` John R. Strohm
2003-03-04 12:11                                                     ` Faust
2003-03-04 15:51                                                       ` OT: Crime Frank J. Lhota
2003-03-03  8:01                                                   ` status of PL/I as a viable language Preben Randhol
2003-02-24 20:15                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2003-02-25 10:00                                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-26  1:10                                         ` Randy Brukardt
2003-02-26 18:49                                         ` Stephen Leake
2003-02-27 12:09                                           ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-01 18:16                                             ` Richard Riehle
2003-03-02  1:56                                           ` AG
     [not found]                                 ` <iqeli-c2d.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com>
2003-02-23  5:13                                   ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-28 10:32                                     ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-02-28 18:52                                       ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-02-23 19:19                                 ` Berend de Boer
2003-02-24  6:19                                   ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-20 22:10                         ` Peter Flass
2003-02-20 22:26                         ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-02-21  9:13                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-02-21 14:56                           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-21 16:04                             ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-21 19:41                             ` Mike Silva
2003-02-21 20:41                             ` Richard Riehle
2003-02-21 21:46                               ` Donald L. Dobbs
2003-02-23  2:23                                 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
2003-02-23  5:02                                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-23 18:34                                   ` Donald L. Dobbs
2003-02-24  6:22                                     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-21 19:16                           ` John R. Strohm
2003-02-21 19:49                             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-21 20:32                               ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-02-21 20:40                                 ` John R. Strohm
2003-02-25 10:31                                   ` Quality (Re: status of PL/I as a viable language) Anders Wirzenius
2003-02-25 13:10                                     ` Marin David Condic
2003-02-26  6:22                                       ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-02-26 11:47                                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-02-26 12:40                                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-02-26 13:43                                         ` Marin David Condic
2003-02-27  7:05                                           ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-03-01 22:28                                     ` AG
2003-03-01 12:56                                       ` Peter Flass
2003-03-01 19:17                                         ` Frank Clarke
2003-03-01 13:51                                       ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-03-01 13:54                                         ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-03-02 18:51                                           ` AG [this message]
2003-03-02  9:55                                             ` Anders Wirzenius
2003-02-21 20:35                               ` status of PL/I as a viable language John R. Strohm
2003-02-21 21:40                                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-02-21 22:25                                   ` John R. Strohm
2003-02-22 10:56                                   ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-22 19:55                                     ` Everett M. Greene
2003-02-23 11:15                                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-22 19:55                                   ` Everett M. Greene
2003-02-22 20:03                                     ` John R. Strohm
2003-02-22 22:38                                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-02-21 21:44                             ` Pointless Harlows
2003-02-22  4:51                               ` John W. Kennedy
2003-02-23  0:13                                 ` James J. Weinkam
2003-02-23  2:28                                   ` John W. Kennedy
2003-02-22 13:04                               ` IEFBR14, was " Peter Flass
2003-02-22 19:08                                 ` Robert Munck
2003-02-23  9:53                                   ` Pointless Harlows
2003-02-22 19:31                                 ` John W. Kennedy
2003-02-23  2:12                                 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
2003-02-20 21:45                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-02-20 22:06                       ` Peter Flass
2003-02-20 23:30                         ` John R. Strohm
2003-02-21 13:46                           ` Peter Flass
2003-02-21 20:33                             ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
2003-02-21 20:26                           ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
2003-02-20 22:34                       ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                       ` <1lagi-b33.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com>
2003-02-21 16:09                         ` Preben Randhol
2003-02-21 18:10                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-02-24 12:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-02-21 20:16                     ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
2003-02-22 12:57                       ` Peter Flass
2003-02-23  2:27                         ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
2003-02-21 20:49                   ` Donald's F-22 Question Richard Riehle
2003-02-21 22:37                     ` Jerry Petrey
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