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From: nabbasi@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Distinguishing type names from other identifiers
Date: 1998/01/17
Date: 1998-01-17T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <69rnvv$gjr@drn.zippo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.BSF.3.96.980116171810.3901B-100000@shell5.ba.best.com


>
>On 16 Jan 1998, Robert Dewar wrote:
>> 
>> On the other hand, uniformity of syntax is NOT about reducing bugs. It is
>> about creating a code base that everyone in the group feels comfortable
>> with, so that you avoid the phenomenon, all too common I am afraid in many
>> large projects, of individuals "owning" pieces of the code and (a) not
>> wanting anyone else to mess with their parts and (b) not being willing to
>> mess with other peoples code.

I view the idea of a programmer owning a particulare part of the 
software (say a subsystem, or a number of packages or a number of clases etc..)
as more of having personal responsibility for what they are working on, NOT
as being not wanting others to touch their code or they not wanting to 
touch someone else code.

This is why I don't agree that each programmer should not "own" what they
are working on. again, owning here means to me that they are "responsible" 
for that they are working on, it is a positive thing, not a negative one.

Otherwise, it becomes programming by committe, no one is responsible for
any thing going wrong, becuase no one owns the code. If one part of the 
software is not working, one can't hold any person responsible, this seems
to me to allow lazy and bad programmers to ride on the shoulder of better
programmers.

The best situation is where programmers are held responsible for what they
write, to be held responsible for what you write must imply ownsership
of the code, but at the same time, having the code such that any one 
can easily read each other's code or even modify each other code if the need
arises. I beleive in having common style and common standards, but at the
same time, owning what you write.
 
just my 1.88 cents offcourse. 

thanks,
Nasser




  reply	other threads:[~1998-01-17  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-01-13  0:00 Distinguishing type names from other identifiers Adam Beneschan
1998-01-14  0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-01-15  0:00   ` Michael F Brenner
1998-01-15  0:00     ` Nick Roberts
1998-01-16  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-16  0:00         ` Michael F Brenner
1998-01-16  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-16  0:00             ` Brian Rogoff
1998-01-17  0:00               ` nabbasi [this message]
1998-01-18  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-18  0:00                   ` who owns the code? was " nabbasi
1998-01-18  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-19  0:00                       ` nabbasi
1998-01-19  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-20  0:00                           ` Paul Van Bellinghen
1998-01-21  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-21  0:00                               ` nabbasi
1998-01-22  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-21  0:00                               ` nabbasi
1998-01-22  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-22  0:00                                   ` nabbasi
1998-01-26  0:00                           ` Matthew Heaney
1998-01-20  0:00                       ` Anonymous
1998-01-20  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]               ` <69rnvv$ <dewar.885475174@me>
1998-01-23  0:00                 ` James Hopper
1998-01-23  0:00                 ` James Hopper
1998-01-22  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]                 ` <6a8mir$caa@nn <dewar.8855 <6a8vgd$cr7@nntp1.erinet.com>
1998-01-23  0:00                   ` Richard Kenner
1998-01-23  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-23  0:00                     ` Paul Van Bellinghen
1998-01-23  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]                 ` <6a8mir$caa@nn <dewar.8855 <6a8vgd$cr7@nn <dewar.885555487@merv>
1998-01-24  0:00                   ` James Hopper
1998-01-16  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-21  0:00           ` Philip Brashear
1998-01-20  0:00         ` Benoit Jauvin-Girard
1998-01-20  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-19  0:00 ` who owns the code? was " Anonymous
1998-01-19  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1998-01-25  0:00 tmoran
1998-01-25  0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1998-01-26  0:00   ` Nick Roberts
1998-01-14  0:00 tmoran
1998-01-14  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-14  0:00   ` Brian Rogoff
1998-01-14  0:00     ` nabbasi
1998-01-15  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
1998-01-10  0:00 Two simple language questions (plural types) Matthew Heaney
1998-01-12  0:00 ` Anonymous
1998-01-12  0:00   ` Matthew Heaney
1998-01-12  0:00     ` Brian Rogoff
1998-01-13  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1998-01-13  0:00         ` Distinguishing type names from other identifiers Nick Roberts
1998-01-13  0:00           ` Matthew Heaney
1998-01-14  0:00             ` Stephen Leake
1998-01-24  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1998-01-15  0:00             ` Anonymous
1998-01-24  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1998-01-24  0:00                 ` Martin M Dowie
1998-01-24  0:00                 ` Martin M Dowie
1998-01-25  0:00                   ` Matthew Heaney
1998-01-15  0:00           ` Aaro Koskinen
1998-01-17  0:00             ` Martin M Dowie
1998-01-17  0:00               ` Martin M Dowie
1998-01-25  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1998-01-25  0:00                 ` Brian Rogoff
     [not found]                 ` <n5rs5FAStOz0Ew2+@dowie-cs.demon.co.uk>
1998-01-26  0:00                   ` Brian Rogoff
1998-01-27  0:00                     ` Martin M Dowie
1998-01-27  0:00                       ` Brian Rogoff
1998-01-27  0:00                         ` Matthew Heaney
1998-01-28  0:00                           ` Brian Rogoff
1998-01-28  0:00                             ` Matthew Heaney
1998-01-29  0:00                               ` Brian Rogoff
1998-01-30  0:00                             ` Mats Weber
1998-01-28  0:00                         ` Martin M Dowie
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