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From: Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Simulating the rolling of dices to produce truly random numbers?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 11:32:23 -0600
Date: 2018-01-10T11:32:23-06:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <66jc5d9lmlk2r5gediaoq8rp2to2svs024@4ax.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: p35i4q$5o5$1@toylet.eternal-september.org

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 01:22:35 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
<toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 11/1/2018 01:20, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>> There are a zillion ways to generate truly random numbers, all based on
>> somehow reading a suitably random input -- no need to simulate dice.
>>
>> To use a simulation of dice to get random numbers, you'd need to have a
>> source of random numbers available to you, to perturb the the behavior
>> of the dice.  So you'd be using a (relatively) much more efficient
>> source of randomness to drive a really inefficient source.
>
>Are you saying that dices are NOT random enough?
>
>(I remember Mr. Einstein's statement: "God does not play dice" :)


While was Einstein rejecting quantum mechanics with that statement,
the broad consensus is that he was seriously wrong.  QM (in its modern
form) is considered a massively solid theory, backed by masses of
evidence, and tons of tested and verified theoretical predictions. And
everyone fully understands that is also incomplete, and in conflict
with relativity's understanding of gravity (and relativity also has
massive support).  Which is why the search for the so-called
"Theory-of-Everything", is such a thing...


  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-10 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-10 15:50 Simulating the rolling of dices to produce truly random numbers? Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 16:52 ` Robert Wessel
2018-01-10 16:55   ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 16:59     ` Robert Wessel
2018-01-10 17:00       ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 17:16         ` Robert Wessel
2018-01-10 16:55   ` Robert Wessel
2018-01-10 16:58     ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 21:07       ` David Brown
2018-01-10 17:20 ` Joe Pfeiffer
2018-01-10 17:22   ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 17:32     ` Robert Wessel [this message]
2018-01-10 18:15       ` Richard Heathfield
2018-01-10 19:09         ` Robert Wessel
2018-01-10 17:38     ` Joe Pfeiffer
2018-01-10 17:48       ` Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 18:43         ` Joe Pfeiffer
2018-01-10 18:20   ` Scott Lurndal
2018-01-10 18:23     ` Lew Pitcher
2018-01-10 20:29 ` Chris M. Thomasson
2018-01-10 22:54 ` Mace Ayres
2018-01-11  1:31   ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-01-11 12:45   ` AdaMagica
2018-01-11 14:40     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2018-01-12  2:32     ` Mace Ayres
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