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From: Steffen Huber <spam@huber-net.de>
Subject: Re: GnatBench (from GPL edition)
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:14:42 +0200
Date: 2008-04-03T12:14:42+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <65jp0kF2f6de5U1@mid.individual.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fsruh4$pbe$1@jacob-sparre.dk>

Randy Brukardt wrote:
[Eclipse as an IDE]
> I understand the market pressures, but on a practical basis, I don't
> understand the big deal about bloated IDEs anyway. Everything that is
> worthwhile in an IDE is language and compiler-specific anyway (debuggers,
> error messages, syntax, symbol browsing, project management), so what can
> this empty framework actually accomplish? It seems like just another way to
> keep Intel and AMD in business by forcing machine upgrades that aren't
> necessary.

I can think of rather a lot of things in an IDE that are basically
"language agnostic".

Beyond providing a lot of code reusage possibilities (e.g. for the
editor and the whole windowing stuff - the docking containers in Eclipse
are a good example of that), think about "generic editors" for resources
used in many languages (e.g. xml and text files), the help system,
integration of a versioning system, integration of an issues tracker
system, diff tools...

If you are used to a tight integration and powerful plugins in Eclipse,
evaluating something like GPS just makes you feel sad about the many
hours wasted for reinventing the wheel, and coming up with much worse
a wheel.

Steffen

-- 
Steffen Huber
hubersn Software - http://www.hubersn-software.com/



  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-03 10:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-20 16:35 GnatBench (from GPL edition) John McCabe
2008-03-20 16:46 ` John McCabe
2008-03-20 22:08   ` Britt Snodgrass
2008-03-25 18:06     ` John McCabe
2008-03-25 20:32       ` Britt Snodgrass
2008-03-25 21:17         ` John McCabe
2008-03-26 21:07           ` Simon Wright
2008-03-26 22:05             ` John McCabe
2008-03-27  9:07               ` Stephen Leake
2008-03-27 10:08                 ` John McCabe
2008-03-29  0:28                   ` Stephen Leake
2008-03-29  2:48                     ` Britt Snodgrass
2008-03-29 23:32                       ` John McCabe
2008-03-30  8:24                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-03-31 14:23                           ` John McCabe
2008-03-31 16:12                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-03-31 16:43                               ` John McCabe
2008-04-01  0:09                         ` Randy Brukardt
2008-04-01  4:19                           ` Eric Hughes
2008-04-01  7:39                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-04-01 19:52                             ` Randy Brukardt
2008-04-01 19:58                             ` Randy Brukardt
2008-04-02 21:03                           ` John McCabe
2008-04-03  3:20                             ` Randy Brukardt
2008-04-03  7:35                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-04-03 10:20                               ` John McCabe
2008-04-04  2:20                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2008-04-04 22:50                                   ` John McCabe
2008-04-03 10:14                           ` Steffen Huber [this message]
2008-04-01 17:06                         ` Pascal Obry
2008-03-29 23:10                     ` John McCabe
2008-03-26 10:19         ` John McCabe
2008-03-26 14:35           ` Britt Snodgrass
2008-03-26 14:40             ` Britt Snodgrass
2008-03-26 18:14             ` John McCabe
2008-04-29  9:34 ` John McCabe
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