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From: David Botton <david@botton.com>
Subject: Re: If not Ada, what else...
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 11:25:44 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2015-07-09T11:25:44-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <64bc671c-72e5-4924-b703-3b907c69949c@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29dd5458-f9ce-4db8-9128-8ab35a9ce5f8@googlegroups.com>

> That's an interesting topic. I don't know D (I have prejudices against languages that use curly brackets). In what areas is ahead Ada and in what key areas is crippled?

D is lacking - #1 no way to switch braces to begin and end :), the ability to create new ranged types no via OO. It does have a concept of types above C and C++ but no where near Ada's. As an extension of that it can only create 0 indexed arrays, but you can use enumerations, so some support. There are other issues but mostly revolve around lacks in terms of defining types and as a direct result compile time checks related to those lacks. It's way ahead of C/C++, Java, etc. and there are ways to create types in OO but then all checks become dynamic.

D is ahead - 3 true open source (no virused runtimes) implementations (dmd, lcd2, gdc), phobos (D's runtime) is incredibly rich, functional, parallel computing, concurrency, etc. Ada's annexes are primitive in comparison. Easier interfacing with C. Community support, resources, etc. etc. dub - package management and build system, etc. built in unit testing, better syntax for pre and post conditions, and tons more.

A few tweaks to D's type system and not sure Ada would have anything all that unique or beneficial at all.

> Well, Nim is still immature and a little buggy. By the way, Rust author has abandoned Rust and turned into Nim. An .

Goes to show you both languages no more than a fad.

The author of Rust went to nim because of C output since he is working on an OS. BTW, D has already successfully been used for creating OSes, etc.

> Well, Nim is not a Python like language at all.

Oh my, it was created to be a compilable Python from the start.....

David Botton

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-09 18:25 UTC|newest]

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2011-04-20 10:39 If not Ada, what else Alex R. Mosteo
2011-04-20 10:51 ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-04-21  8:47   ` Alex R. Mosteo
2011-04-20 11:53 ` Maciej Sobczak
2011-04-21  8:46   ` Alex R. Mosteo
2011-04-23  2:08     ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-04-21 17:19 ` Robert Matthews
2011-04-21 19:02   ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-04-21 19:25   ` Florian Weimer
2011-04-22 15:50     ` Robert Matthews
2011-04-22 17:49       ` Brad Cantrell
2011-04-23  2:20         ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-04-23  9:55           ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-04-23 11:17             ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-04-22 21:39       ` Florian Weimer
2011-04-23  2:26         ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-04-23  9:52 ` björn lundin
2011-04-23 11:50 ` Piotr Trojanek
2011-04-23 12:23   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-04-23 14:30     ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-04-23 15:04       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-04-23 16:16     ` Piotr Trojanek
2011-04-28 12:55   ` C++/cmake project, injecting Ada... (was Re: If not Ada, what else...) Alex R. Mosteo
2011-04-28 16:34     ` C++/cmake project, injecting Ada Ludovic Brenta
2011-04-29  8:17       ` Alex R. Mosteo
2011-04-29 12:45         ` stefan-lucks
2015-07-02 10:44         ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2011-05-28 17:33     ` C++/cmake project, injecting Ada... (was Re: If not Ada, what else...) Dirk Heinrichs
2015-07-03 19:21 ` If not Ada, what else luvhed
2015-07-03 20:50   ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-04  8:19 ` Rod Kay
2015-07-08 18:11 ` jm.tarrasa
2015-07-08 20:33   ` Anh Vo
2015-07-09  6:36     ` jm.tarrasa
2015-07-08 22:15   ` David Botton
2015-07-09  7:28     ` jm.tarrasa
2015-07-09  9:54       ` G.B.
2015-07-09 12:57       ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-07-09 18:25       ` David Botton [this message]
2015-07-09 21:15         ` Bob Duff
2015-07-09 22:23           ` David Botton
2015-07-09 22:39             ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-10  0:20               ` David Botton
2015-07-10  4:26                 ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-10 15:01                   ` David Botton
2015-07-10 16:07                     ` David Botton
2015-07-10 17:39                       ` Bob Duff
2015-07-10 18:22                     ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-10 19:10                       ` David Botton
2015-07-10 19:43                         ` Patrick Noffke
2015-07-11 10:46                           ` Brian Drummond
2015-07-11 10:59                             ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-11 13:41                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-11 14:11                                 ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-13 14:02                             ` Patrick Noffke
2015-07-13 14:16                               ` David Botton
2015-07-13 14:54                                 ` Maciej Sobczak
2015-07-16 20:19                                 ` Serge Robyns
2015-07-17  1:50                                   ` David Botton
2015-07-17 17:07                                     ` Anh Vo
2015-07-17 21:28                                       ` Serge Robyns
2015-07-17 22:53                                         ` Anh Vo
2015-07-19 14:31                                       ` David Botton
2015-07-19 16:20                                         ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-19 20:55                                           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-19 21:15                                             ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-20 16:08                                               ` Tero Koskinen
2015-07-20 17:31                                                 ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-21  1:16                                                   ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-07-21  3:09                                                     ` Shark8
2015-07-21 12:46                                                       ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-07-21  5:43                                                   ` J-P. Rosen
2015-07-21 12:47                                                     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-07-21 12:55                                                       ` J-P. Rosen
2015-07-19 22:38                                           ` David Botton
2015-07-21  6:30                                     ` Gour
2015-07-21 16:24                                       ` David Botton
2015-07-21 17:29                                         ` Niklas Holsti
2015-07-21 18:51                                           ` Simon Wright
2015-07-21 19:36                                             ` David Botton
2015-07-22  8:44                                               ` Pascal Obry
2015-07-22 12:00                                               ` Jean François Martinez
2015-07-27 22:59                                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-28  7:00                                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-28  7:22                                                     ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-28 10:36                                                       ` darkestkhan
2015-07-28 10:58                                                       ` G.B.
2015-07-28 20:33                                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-28 10:40                                                   ` darkestkhan
2015-07-29  7:30                                                     ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-07-29  8:55                                                       ` Simon Wright
2015-07-29 12:38                                                   ` EGarrulo
2015-07-29 13:06                                                     ` EGarrulo
2015-07-29 15:41                                                     ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-29 17:01                                                       ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-29 18:27                                                         ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-29 18:52                                                           ` Björn Lundin
2015-07-29 22:18                                                             ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-30  6:23                                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 16:48                                                                 ` David Botton
2015-07-30 18:10                                                               ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-29 19:18                                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-29 19:42                                                             ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-30  4:54                                                               ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-30  6:15                                                                 ` Niklas Holsti
2015-07-30  6:34                                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30  6:47                                                                   ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-30  7:20                                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-30 23:13                                                                       ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-29 17:07                                                       ` Stefan.Lucks
2015-07-29 17:47                                                         ` Paul Rubin
2015-08-21 23:03                                                           ` Waldek Hebisch
2015-08-22  3:24                                                             ` Paul Rubin
2015-08-23 16:26                                                               ` Waldek Hebisch
2015-08-23 17:18                                                                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-23 17:31                                                                   ` Waldek Hebisch
2015-08-23 19:32                                                                     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-23 23:01                                                               ` Waldek Hebisch
2015-07-29 19:32                                                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-30  5:17                                                         ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-30  7:38                                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-30 18:26                                                             ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-30 18:37                                                               ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-31  7:14                                                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-30 10:59                                                     ` darkestkhan
2015-08-19 22:19                                                 ` rriehle
2015-08-19 22:58                                                   ` Anh Vo
2015-08-19 23:32                                                     ` rriehle
2015-08-20  1:08                                                       ` Peter Chapin
2015-08-21 15:14                                                       ` Anh Vo
2015-08-21 16:07                                                         ` Anh Vo
2015-08-21 17:17                                                           ` Patrick Noffke
2015-07-21 19:51                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-21 21:06                                               ` Simon Wright
2015-07-21 21:51                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-21 22:55                                                   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-07-22  7:26                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-22  9:05                                                       ` Mart van de Wege
2015-07-22 10:27                                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-22  7:01                                                   ` Simon Wright
2015-07-22  7:35                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-27 23:02                                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-27 22:44                                                 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-28  7:30                                                   ` Simon Wright
2015-07-28 20:39                                                     ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-29  7:12                                                       ` Simon Wright
2015-07-29 11:11                                                         ` vincent.diemunsch
2015-07-29 19:31                                                         ` Randy Brukardt
2015-07-22 12:53                                               ` Vincent
2015-07-22 13:59                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-21 20:05                                             ` J-P. Rosen
2015-07-21 21:02                                               ` Simon Wright
2015-07-21 23:40                                               ` Shark8
2015-07-22 12:58                                               ` vincent.diemunsch
2015-07-22 13:40                                                 ` J-P. Rosen
2015-07-22 14:29                                                   ` Vincent
2015-07-21 19:30                                           ` David Botton
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2015-08-21  5:21                                       ` Shark8
2015-08-21 17:39                                       ` David Botton
2015-07-11  2:31                         ` Paul Rubin
2015-07-11  6:00                           ` J-P. Rosen
2015-07-11  7:51                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-07-11  8:47                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-07-21  1:34                           ` Luke A. Guest
2015-07-27  9:09                       ` Assertions in SPARK (Was: If not Ada, what else...) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-07-27 10:56                         ` G.B.
2015-07-27 21:59                           ` Peter Chapin
2015-07-11 11:10                   ` If not Ada, what else Pascal Obry
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