From: seebs@plethora.net (Peter Seebach)
Subject: Re: Yet another stupid language war (was: ... the only languages you need!!)
Date: 1997/11/01
Date: 1997-11-01T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <63ej20$mt6$3@darla.visi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 345AAAF5.199FEDD3@horvath.com
In article <345AAAF5.199FEDD3@horvath.com>,
Bob Horvath <bob@horvath.com> wrote:
>> Do you want storage space or range? Storage space is 'sizeof(int)',
>> range is [INT_MIN, INT_MAX].
>Range. I want something that maps directly onto the problem domain.
Then use Ada. :) If you can make do with "at least this much range",
and the range isn't more than +/- 2^31 -1, or 0..2^32-1, C can help.
>I would agree with you that Java has solved a portability problem by specifying
>the size of integer types, but I think the Ada method of having types based on
>ranges is a better way of doing things. I would disagree that code that
>doesn't need to know the size of an int can be portable among all
>implementations. The size of an int defines the range of values that will
>behave predictably. Change to an implementation that changes the size of
>an int, and the type definition has just changed.
Right; this is why "strictly conforming" code is careful not to use values
outside that range. :)
>I can't think of many problem domains that require an integer to be a certain
>size. Most problem domains require that a numeric value be capable of
>representing a certain range of values.
Well, yes, but a range like
0..2^32 -1
is going to need a 32 bit int.
>A guaranteed 32 bit integer in C would be welcome (which is why
>they have defined integer sizes in Java). If you assume an int is
>32 bits, then it will break on a machine that defines it as 16
>bits, and if signed, might sign extend differently on a 64 bit
>machine.
Right. If you assume an int has the range INT_MIN..INT_MAX, you'll
be fine. :)
C9X offers optional exact types, and a few other enhancements... Still,
it's not going to guarantee you that int32_t exists. I dunno if that's
good or bad, but it's what's happening this time around.
-s
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1997-10-28 0:00 ` Kenneth W. Sodemann
1997-10-28 0:00 ` BRIAN LANGENBERGER
1997-10-28 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1997-10-28 0:00 ` Rob
1997-10-29 0:00 ` Nope! was " JT (from Fritz)
1997-10-29 0:00 ` Phlip C Plumlee
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-10-29 0:00 ` David A. Frantz
1997-10-31 0:00 ` Alan E & Carmel J Brain
1997-10-28 0:00 ` Kenneth W. Sodemann
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1997-10-28 0:00 ` Kenneth W. Sodemann
1997-10-28 0:00 ` Rob Eamon
1997-10-28 0:00 ` Kenneth W. Sodemann
1997-10-28 0:00 ` Kenneth W. Sodemann
1997-10-28 0:00 ` Kenneth W. Sodemann
1997-10-28 0:00 ` Steve Ropa
1997-10-28 0:00 ` Charles R. Lyttle
1997-10-28 0:00 ` Current Ada strengths - was " Robert S. White
1997-10-29 0:00 ` Steve Ropa
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Bob Horvath
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1997-10-30 0:00 ` Bob Horvath
1997-10-31 0:00 ` Steve Ropa
1997-10-31 0:00 ` David A. Frantz
1997-10-31 0:00 ` Kenneth W. Sodemann
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Steve Ropa
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Derek A Benner
1997-10-31 0:00 ` Robert S. White
1997-10-31 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-10-31 0:00 ` Steve Ropa
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Kenneth W. Sodemann
1997-10-30 0:00 ` ADA work, C/C++/JAVA crashes!!!! Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-10-30 0:00 ` ADA SUCKS, C/C++/JAVA RULES!!!! Kenneth W. Sodemann
1997-12-04 0:00 ` tbb03ar
1997-10-28 0:00 ` Shayne Flint
1997-10-28 0:00 ` Dennis Weldy
1997-10-29 0:00 ` Alan E & Carmel J Brain
1997-10-29 0:00 ` CodeRed
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1997-10-28 0:00 ` John Black
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1997-10-29 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1997-10-28 0:00 ` John Bode
1997-10-28 0:00 ` ADA and Pascal SUCK, C,C++, and Java are the only languages you need!! John Black
1997-10-28 0:00 ` David A. Frantz
1997-10-29 0:00 ` John Black
1997-10-29 0:00 ` Mike Copeland
1997-10-29 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Yet another stupid language war (was: ... the only languages you need!!) W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Peter Seebach
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Bob Horvath
1997-10-31 0:00 ` Peter Seebach
1997-10-31 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1997-10-31 0:00 ` Peter Seebach
1997-11-01 0:00 ` Dr John Stockton
1997-11-02 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1997-11-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1997-10-31 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-10-31 0:00 ` Bob Horvath
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1997-11-04 0:00 ` How big is an int? (was: Yet another stupid language war (was: ... the only languages you need!!)) Ted Lyngmo
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1997-11-06 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
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1997-11-05 0:00 ` Peter Seebach
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1997-11-06 0:00 ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-11-06 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
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1997-11-13 0:00 ` Lawrence Kirby
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1997-11-20 0:00 ` Craig Franck
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1997-11-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1997-11-03 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-11-03 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-11-03 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-11-04 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
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1997-11-04 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
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1997-11-05 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
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1997-11-06 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
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1997-11-04 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-11-05 0:00 ` Chris Brand
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1997-11-05 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
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1997-11-05 0:00 ` Dann Corbit
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1997-11-02 0:00 ` Lawrence Kirby
1997-11-03 0:00 ` Simon Wright
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1997-11-03 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-11-01 0:00 ` Portability: C, C++, Ada Alan E & Carmel J Brain
1997-11-01 0:00 ` Peter Seebach
1997-11-05 0:00 ` ADA and Pascal SUCK, C,C++, and Java are the only languages you need!! John Stevens
1997-11-05 0:00 ` John Stevens
1997-11-06 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-11-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-11-07 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-11-07 0:00 ` Larry Elmore
1997-11-11 0:00 ` Dr E. Buxbaum
1997-11-11 0:00 ` Russ Lyttle
1997-11-12 0:00 ` Marc Wachowitz
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1997-11-30 0:00 ` Mark Wilden
1997-11-30 0:00 ` Larry Elmore
1997-12-02 0:00 ` Mark Wilden
1997-11-29 0:00 ` Dennis Weldy
1997-12-01 0:00 ` John Hannon
1997-11-28 0:00 ` Your boss sucks, mine is better (was: " Billy Chambless
1997-11-28 0:00 ` Mark Wilden
1997-11-28 0:00 ` Peter Seebach
1997-11-28 0:00 ` Mark Wilden
1997-12-01 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-12-02 0:00 ` Christian Bau
1997-12-01 0:00 ` billg
1997-11-28 0:00 ` billg
1997-11-26 0:00 ` Peter Seebach
1997-11-28 0:00 ` billg
1997-11-28 0:00 ` Peter Seebach
1997-12-01 0:00 ` billg
1997-11-29 0:00 ` Larry Elmore
1997-11-29 0:00 ` billg
1997-11-30 0:00 ` Larry Elmore
1997-12-01 0:00 ` billg
1997-12-01 0:00 ` billg
1997-12-01 0:00 ` Billy Chambless
1997-12-02 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-12-02 0:00 ` wjanik
1997-12-01 0:00 ` billg
1997-11-29 0:00 ` Larry Elmore
1997-11-29 0:00 ` billg
1997-12-01 0:00 ` John English
1997-12-01 0:00 ` Larry Elmore
1997-12-04 0:00 ` Bob O
1997-11-24 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-11-27 0:00 ` Matt Osborne
1997-12-03 0:00 ` ANDREAS LEITNER
[not found] ` <64vl4h$3qh@bgtn <34747E35.79AE@no_spam.ip.edu.com>
1997-11-20 0:00 ` G Moore (was Re: Your english sucks, mine is better.) Kaz Kylheku
1997-11-21 0:00 ` Robert S. White
1997-11-21 0:00 ` Kevin Davis Sr.
[not found] ` <64vl4h$3qh@bgtn <652aes$63a$1@news01.micron.net>
1997-11-23 0:00 ` Your english sucks, mine is better John Winters
1997-11-24 0:00 ` English SUCKS, Chinese is the only language you need!! Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-11-19 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-11-19 0:00 ` Cynthia & Bill
1997-11-19 0:00 ` tmt
1997-11-19 0:00 ` Mark Wilden
1997-11-28 0:00 ` Ingemar Ragnemalm
1997-11-29 0:00 ` Danette & Murray Root
1997-12-02 0:00 ` Morgan Palaeo Associates
1997-12-05 0:00 ` R.E.Donais
1997-12-03 0:00 ` Matt Corey
1997-11-21 0:00 ` Jerry Sams
1997-11-18 0:00 ` Billy Chambless
1997-11-19 0:00 ` Mike Smith
[not found] ` <64sql2$k0@ <YSQz$BJ98GA.158@news2.ingr.com>
1997-11-19 0:00 ` John R. Reagan
[not found] ` <64sql2$k0@ <3473407e.17757163@lhc.nlm.nih.gov>
1997-11-20 0:00 ` John R. Reagan
1997-11-18 0:00 ` JCore
[not found] ` <01bcf51b$abcea520$0200000a@kld_mcs>
1997-11-19 0:00 ` system
[not found] ` <01bcf5c3$afbda340$0200000a@kld_mcs>
1997-11-20 0:00 ` Craig Franck
1997-11-19 0:00 ` John Rickard
1997-11-20 0:00 ` Christer Gustavsson
1997-11-19 0:00 ` Michael Rubenstein
1997-11-19 0:00 ` Mark Wilden
1997-11-20 0:00 ` Michael Rubenstein
1997-11-20 0:00 ` Peter Seebach
1997-11-20 0:00 ` Boyd Roberts
1997-11-20 0:00 ` Larry Elmore
1997-11-20 0:00 ` Joseph Santaniello
[not found] ` <34746A05.49AA@mWilden.com>
1997-11-20 0:00 ` system
1997-11-26 0:00 ` Frans E. Boone
1997-11-26 0:00 ` system
1997-11-27 0:00 ` Knochenhauer Bernd
1997-11-26 0:00 ` CERVANTES OJEDA, Jorge
1997-11-26 0:00 ` Kevin Edwards
1997-11-26 0:00 ` Peter Seebach
1997-11-25 0:00 ` Bob Bakh
1997-11-26 0:00 ` macpar
1997-11-20 0:00 ` Boyd Roberts
[not found] ` <01bcf5c4$5916e8c0$0200000a@kld_mcs>
[not found] ` <MPG.ede6533db8ead2b9896b3@news.mindspring.com>
1997-11-20 0:00 ` Wei Jing Guo
1997-11-20 0:00 ` Mark Wilden
1997-11-22 0:00 ` Ncp268
1997-11-24 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-11-25 0:00 ` chasjt
1997-11-21 0:00 ` Jerry Sams
[not found] ` <34745A75.D22E132D@zeelandnet.nl>
1997-11-20 0:00 ` John Rickard
1997-11-18 0:00 ` Chieh Cheng
1997-11-19 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-11-24 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-11-18 0:00 ` Dr E. Buxbaum
1997-11-19 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-11-19 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-11-19 0:00 ` Matt Corey
1997-11-19 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-11-19 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-11-20 0:00 ` Mike Smith
1997-11-21 0:00 ` David Weller
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1997-11-21 0:00 ` Dennis Weldy
1997-11-24 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-11-25 0:00 ` Dennis Weldy
1997-11-25 0:00 ` Peter Seebach
1997-11-25 0:00 ` Martin M Dowie
1997-11-19 0:00 ` Mike Smith
1997-10-30 0:00 ` ADA and Pascal SUCK, C,C++, and Java are the only languages " Corey Barcus
1997-10-31 0:00 ` Scott A. Moore
1997-10-31 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-10-31 0:00 ` Scott A. Moore
1997-11-03 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-11-01 0:00 ` Timo Salmi
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Dr E. Buxbaum
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Steve Ropa
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-11-05 0:00 ` John Stevens
1997-11-06 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-11-06 0:00 ` Steve Ropa
1997-11-07 0:00 ` Craig Franck
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1997-10-30 0:00 ` Ada, Pascal, Eiffel and others Alan Brain
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1997-10-30 0:00 ` NOSPAM_f93-eaa
1997-10-31 0:00 ` geldridg
1997-11-01 0:00 ` Alan E & Carmel J Brain
1997-10-31 0:00 ` Trolling Jerry van Dijk
1997-11-03 0:00 ` Trolling Ron Thompson
1997-11-01 0:00 ` ADA and Pascal SUCK, C,C++, and Java are the only languages you need!! Gary A. Wiltshire
[not found] ` <01bcea64$dd48dba0$bf0562cb@dialup.voyager.co.nz>
1997-11-07 0:00 ` Gary A. Wiltshire
1997-11-03 0:00 ` Christopher Eltschka
1997-10-29 0:00 ` ADA SUCKS, C/C++/JAVA RULES!!!! Philip Brashear
1997-10-29 0:00 ` BRIAN LANGENBERGER
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Ed Muldoon
1997-10-28 0:00 ` Kenneth W. Sodemann
1997-10-28 0:00 ` Kenneth W. Sodemann
1997-10-28 0:00 ` John Bode
1997-11-03 0:00 ` vonhend
1997-10-28 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1997-10-30 0:00 ` Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
1997-10-31 0:00 ` Ken Mays
1997-10-31 0:00 ` Charles R. Lyttle
1997-11-01 0:00 ` NOSPAM_f93-eaa
1997-11-01 0:00 ` Charles R. Lyttle
1997-11-02 0:00 ` David A. Frantz
1997-11-08 0:00 ` Charles W. Johnson
1997-11-08 0:00 ` Charles R. Lyttle
1997-11-03 0:00 ` Nick Leaton
1997-11-06 0:00 ` John Stevens
1997-11-07 0:00 ` Boyd Roberts
1997-11-07 0:00 ` Kaz Kylheku
1997-11-10 0:00 ` Charles W. Kann
1997-11-10 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-11-11 0:00 ` Matt Kennel (Remove 'NOSPAM' to reply)
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1997-11-11 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
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1997-11-01 0:00 ` Flame bait count 146 (Re: ADA SUCKS, C/C++/JAVA RULES!!!!) Ken Garlington
1997-11-02 0:00 ` Marcus Agrippa
1997-11-02 0:00 ` Carsten Engelmann
1997-11-02 0:00 ` ADA SUCKS, C/C++/JAVA RULES!!!! Supreme
1997-11-04 0:00 ` Alan E & Carmel J Brain
1997-11-04 0:00 ` Guest
1997-11-12 0:00 ` ADA and Pascal SUCK, C,C++, and Java are the only languages you need!! Samuel T. Harris
1997-11-12 0:00 ` Larry Elmore
1997-11-12 0:00 ` which languages suck Stanley R. Allen
1997-11-13 0:00 ` Larry Elmore
1997-11-14 0:00 ` Robert Munck
1997-11-14 0:00 ` Russ Lyttle
1997-11-14 0:00 ` Bjorn Vaggen Konestabo
1997-11-13 0:00 ` ADA and Pascal SUCK, C,C++, and Java are the only languages you need!! Jon S Anthony
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