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From: Shark8 <onewingedshark@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Properties
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 19:12:16 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2010-12-03T19:12:16-08:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6326ff3f-3972-4b17-be57-a7b5d3b5ffe8@29g2000prb.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1x7ohnuflqoqs.58dfeefat1q2.dlg@40tude.net

On Dec 3, 3:38 pm, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mail...@dmitry-kazakov.de>
wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 11:52:22 -0800 (PST), Shark8 wrote:
> > On Dec 3, 2:05 am, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mail...@dmitry-kazakov.de>
> > wrote:
> >> The bottom line, interfaces must be removed from Ada.
> >> Instead of that an interface must be made inheritable
> >> from any concrete type. This is the same idea as with
> >> abstract record, array etc types.
>
> > Wouldn't this be alleviated by two things:
> > Allowing INTERFACE [keyword] objects to have fields (properties as
> > I've described, or somesuch)?
>
> These are different problems:
>
> 1. Record interface, this is in effect what you proposed:
>
>    type Members is interface record
>        A : Integer; -- Not a physical member only an interface "Object.A"
>    end record;
>
> [I want other interfaces too, like array interface, access interface etc.]
>
> 2. Interface inheritance. Let you have some type:
>
>    type T is tagged ...
>    procedure Foo (X : T);
>
> You have to replace it to
>
>    type Interface_of_T is interface;
>    procedure Foo (X : Interface_T) is abstract;
>
>    type T is ... and Interface_of_T ...
>    overriding procedure Foo (X : T);
>
> In order to be able to say:
>
>    type S is ... and Interface_of_T ...
>    overriding procedure Foo (X : S);
>
> It is boring. Each type obviously has an interface, which must be
> inheritable from.
>
> > Allowing objects some sort of self/this/me attribute where the result
> > is a Not Null Access to its classwide-type*? (Or am I misunderstanding
> > what you mean by the need for "a fat pointer transparent to all widget
> > operations"?)
>
> I mean this:
>
>    -- Anything you can do with a widget
>    type Widget_Interface is limited interface;
>    procedure Draw (Object : in out Widget_Interface) is abstract;
>    ...
>
>    -- Implementation of a widget
>    type Widget_Object is new Widget_Interface with ...;
>    overriding procedure Draw (Object : in out Widget_Object);
>
>    type Widget_Object_Ptr is access all Widget_Object;
>
>    -- Public interface of a widget, a reference
>    type Widget is new Ada.Finalization.Controlled and Widget_Interface with
>    record
>       Ptr : Widget_Object_Ptr;
>    end record;
>    overriding procedure Draw (Object : in out Widget);
>
>    procedure Draw (Object : in out Widget) is
>    begin
>       Draw (Object.Ptr.all);
>    end Draw;
>
> Widget_Object is private, publicly accessible is its fat pointer/handle
> Widget. Both implement the same interface Widget_Interface.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Dmitry A. Kazakovhttp://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

Ah, I see!
Delphi has the nice ability to delegate the implementation for an
interface... so the analog to your type widget would be:

Type
  {TObject is the root-object in Delphi}
  TWidget = Class( TObject, Widget_Interface )
   public
     Object : ^Widget_Object implements Widget_Interface;
  end; {Class TWidget}

And then all calls to objects of TWidget via Widget_Interface are
automatically routed to the Object field.



  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-04  3:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-28  3:21 Properties Shark8
2010-11-28  8:15 ` Properties Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-11-28 19:43   ` Properties Shark8
2010-11-29  8:34     ` Properties Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-12-01 18:15       ` Properties Shark8
2010-11-28 12:37 ` Properties Georg Bauhaus
2010-11-28 21:22   ` Properties Shark8
2010-11-29 16:54     ` Properties Georg Bauhaus
2010-12-01 19:52   ` Properties Martin Krischik
2010-12-01 23:24     ` Properties Georg Bauhaus
2010-12-05 16:15       ` (placepo) Properties Martin Krischik
2010-12-06 23:24         ` Shark8
2010-12-01 23:31     ` Properties Georg Bauhaus
2010-11-30  1:49 ` Properties Randy Brukardt
2010-11-30 16:58   ` Properties Charmed Snark
2010-11-30 17:22     ` Properties Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-11-30 20:27       ` Properties Warren
2010-12-01  8:39         ` Properties Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-12-01 15:21           ` Properties Warren
2010-12-01 15:59             ` Properties Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-12-01 16:20               ` Properties Warren
2010-12-01 18:22                 ` Properties Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-12-01 19:36                   ` Properties Shark8
2010-12-01 21:13                     ` Properties Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-12-01 21:35                   ` Properties Maciej Sobczak
2010-12-01 21:45                     ` Properties Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-12-02  9:57                       ` Properties Maciej Sobczak
2010-12-02 10:26                         ` Properties Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-12-02 15:25                           ` Properties Maciej Sobczak
2010-12-02 15:46                             ` Properties Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-12-02 21:11                               ` Properties Maciej Sobczak
2010-12-02 22:19                                 ` Properties Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-12-03  4:43                                 ` Properties Randy Brukardt
2010-12-03 13:53                                   ` Properties Maciej Sobczak
2010-12-03 21:32                                     ` Properties Randy Brukardt
2010-12-04 22:13                                       ` Properties Maciej Sobczak
2010-12-06 23:30                                         ` Properties Shark8
2010-12-06 23:33                                         ` Properties Randy Brukardt
2010-12-04 17:43                           ` Properties Simon Wright
2010-12-04 20:48                             ` Properties Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-12-04 22:27                               ` Properties Simon Wright
2010-12-04 22:31                                 ` Properties Vinzent Hoefler
2010-12-03  4:24                         ` Properties Randy Brukardt
2010-12-03  5:00                         ` Properties Shark8
2010-12-03 21:10                           ` Properties Randy Brukardt
2010-12-03 23:34                           ` Properties Jeffrey Carter
2010-12-06  6:02                             ` Properties Brad Moore
2010-12-06 23:25                               ` Properties Shark8
2010-12-01 19:48                 ` Properties Randy Brukardt
2010-12-01 21:10                   ` Properties Warren
2010-12-02  0:03                     ` Properties Shark8
2010-12-02 16:45                       ` Properties Warren
2010-12-02 17:32                         ` Properties Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-12-02 20:45                           ` Properties Warren
2010-12-02 21:17                             ` Properties Adam Beneschan
2010-12-02 21:40                               ` Properties Warren
2010-12-03  3:34                             ` Properties Shark8
2010-12-03  8:16                               ` Properties Thomas Løcke
2010-12-02 20:52                           ` Properties Pascal Obry
2010-12-02 19:46                         ` Properties Adam Beneschan
2010-12-02 20:38                           ` Properties Warren
2010-12-02 21:39                             ` Properties Jeffrey Carter
2010-12-02 21:55                               ` Properties Warren
2010-12-03  9:33                               ` Properties Anonymous
2010-12-03  3:47                           ` Properties Shark8
2010-12-03  0:09                         ` Properties Robert A Duff
2010-12-03 15:49                           ` Properties Warren
2010-12-03 20:07                             ` Properties Shark8
2010-12-06 21:01                               ` Properties Warren
2010-12-06 23:22                                 ` Properties Shark8
2010-12-07 14:37                                   ` Properties Warren
2010-12-08 21:13                                   ` Properties Simon Wright
2010-12-09  1:21                                     ` Properties Shark8
2010-12-06 23:43                                 ` Properties Randy Brukardt
2010-12-07  0:56                                   ` Properties Jeffrey Carter
2010-12-07 11:23                                   ` Properties Maciej Sobczak
2010-12-07 11:51                                     ` Properties Georg Bauhaus
2010-12-07 15:35                                       ` Properties Maciej Sobczak
2010-12-07 17:02                                         ` Properties Georg Bauhaus
2010-12-07 14:39                                   ` Properties Warren
2010-12-03 15:40                         ` Properties Warren
2010-12-03 19:56                           ` Properties Shark8
2010-12-03 20:12                             ` Properties Warren
2010-12-03  5:53               ` Properties Shark8
2010-12-03  9:05                 ` Properties Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-12-03 19:52                   ` Properties Shark8
2010-12-03 21:14                     ` Properties Randy Brukardt
2010-12-04  5:35                       ` Properties Shark8
2010-12-04 14:23                         ` Properties Peter C. Chapin
2010-12-04 18:53                           ` Properties Shark8
2010-12-13 15:10                       ` Properties Brian Drummond
2010-12-03 22:38                     ` Properties Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-12-04  3:12                       ` Shark8 [this message]
2010-12-04 13:19                     ` Properties Georg Bauhaus
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2010-12-04 19:53 Properties Shark8
2010-12-04 23:27 ` Properties Thomas Løcke
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