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From: Jerry <lanceboyle@qwest.net>
Subject: Re: Copying rows in a two dimensional array.
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 14:23:25 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2010-02-02T14:23:25-08:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <62eb2ccd-b3ff-4a8a-ab80-21c5bb0a0ef4@k18g2000prf.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m4p8kh.376.ln@hunter.axlog.fr

On Feb 2, 1:52 am, Jean-Pierre Rosen <ro...@adalog.fr> wrote:
> Jerry a écrit :> I've never understood why Ada does not allow slicing in
> > multidimensional arrays. What are the safety issues involved? And how
> > is it safe to force the programmer into ad hoc methods?
>
> One-dimensional slices are simple and efficient. Multidimensional slices
> are a can of worms.
>
> I guess you are thinking about rectangular slices. But why stop there? A
> slice comprising the main diagonal and the diagonal above and below can
> be very useful for some calculations. Or a slice which is the triangular
> part of the upper half...
>
> AFAICT, Fortran-99 does provide this - and the syntax is so complicated
> that nobody uses it. And implementation is also a nightmare.
>
> When designing a programming language, you have to stop at some point.
> The ratio (cost of implementation) / usefulness is a good measure for
> this. I think the ratio was simply to high for this feature.
>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>            J-P. Rosen (ro...@adalog.fr)
> Visit Adalog's web site athttp://www.adalog.fr

Well, yes, I was thinking of rectangular slices. No doubt the (cost of
implementation) / usefulness is high (and usage difficult) for non-
rectangular parts, but that is far less common than rectangular parts.
Python, Matlab/Octave, Igor Pro... all pull it off without too much
hassle (although Python asks you to imagine addressing the array by
the "cracks" between elements, as I recall--probably a disease of C-
style counting).

Jerry



  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-02 22:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-01  2:11 Copying rows in a two dimensional array Peter C. Chapin
2010-02-01  4:42 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-02-01  6:55 ` Niklas Holsti
2010-02-01 23:36   ` Peter C. Chapin
2010-02-04  4:27   ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-01  8:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-02-02  0:11   ` Randy Brukardt
2010-02-07 16:13     ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08  6:30       ` tmoran
2010-02-08 13:15         ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 13:45           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-02-08 21:20             ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 23:26               ` (see below)
2010-02-09  0:36                 ` Randy Brukardt
2010-02-09  1:03                   ` (see below)
2010-02-09  7:11                   ` Pascal Obry
2010-02-09  8:14                     ` AdaMagica
2010-02-09 14:33                 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-09  1:05               ` Adam Beneschan
2010-02-09 14:45                 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-09 18:50                   ` tmoran
2010-02-09 19:51                   ` Pascal Obry
2010-02-09 23:03                     ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 18:53           ` tmoran
2010-02-08 21:14             ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 21:29               ` Pascal Obry
2010-02-09  8:56                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2010-02-09  9:14                   ` AdaMagica
2010-02-09 11:19                     ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2010-02-09 14:26                 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-09  6:34               ` tmoran
2010-02-09 14:29                 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-09 18:49                   ` tmoran
2010-02-09 22:58                     ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-01 22:10 ` Jerry
2010-02-02  0:07   ` Randy Brukardt
2010-02-02  8:52   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2010-02-02 22:23     ` Jerry [this message]
2010-02-03  1:24       ` Adam Beneschan
2010-02-04  4:42     ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-14  0:42     ` jonathan
2010-02-14  1:54       ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-14 16:16         ` jonathan
2010-03-22  8:56           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2010-02-16  6:51     ` David Thompson
2010-02-04  4:13 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-04  9:10   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-02-04  9:23     ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
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