From: Jerry <lanceboyle@qwest.net>
Subject: Re: Copying rows in a two dimensional array.
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 14:23:25 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2010-02-02T14:23:25-08:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <62eb2ccd-b3ff-4a8a-ab80-21c5bb0a0ef4@k18g2000prf.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m4p8kh.376.ln@hunter.axlog.fr
On Feb 2, 1:52 am, Jean-Pierre Rosen <ro...@adalog.fr> wrote:
> Jerry a écrit :> I've never understood why Ada does not allow slicing in
> > multidimensional arrays. What are the safety issues involved? And how
> > is it safe to force the programmer into ad hoc methods?
>
> One-dimensional slices are simple and efficient. Multidimensional slices
> are a can of worms.
>
> I guess you are thinking about rectangular slices. But why stop there? A
> slice comprising the main diagonal and the diagonal above and below can
> be very useful for some calculations. Or a slice which is the triangular
> part of the upper half...
>
> AFAICT, Fortran-99 does provide this - and the syntax is so complicated
> that nobody uses it. And implementation is also a nightmare.
>
> When designing a programming language, you have to stop at some point.
> The ratio (cost of implementation) / usefulness is a good measure for
> this. I think the ratio was simply to high for this feature.
>
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> J-P. Rosen (ro...@adalog.fr)
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Well, yes, I was thinking of rectangular slices. No doubt the (cost of
implementation) / usefulness is high (and usage difficult) for non-
rectangular parts, but that is far less common than rectangular parts.
Python, Matlab/Octave, Igor Pro... all pull it off without too much
hassle (although Python asks you to imagine addressing the array by
the "cracks" between elements, as I recall--probably a disease of C-
style counting).
Jerry
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Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-01 2:11 Copying rows in a two dimensional array Peter C. Chapin
2010-02-01 4:42 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-02-01 6:55 ` Niklas Holsti
2010-02-01 23:36 ` Peter C. Chapin
2010-02-04 4:27 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-01 8:37 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-02-02 0:11 ` Randy Brukardt
2010-02-07 16:13 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 6:30 ` tmoran
2010-02-08 13:15 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 13:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-02-08 21:20 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 23:26 ` (see below)
2010-02-09 0:36 ` Randy Brukardt
2010-02-09 1:03 ` (see below)
2010-02-09 7:11 ` Pascal Obry
2010-02-09 8:14 ` AdaMagica
2010-02-09 14:33 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-09 1:05 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-02-09 14:45 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-09 18:50 ` tmoran
2010-02-09 19:51 ` Pascal Obry
2010-02-09 23:03 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 18:53 ` tmoran
2010-02-08 21:14 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-08 21:29 ` Pascal Obry
2010-02-09 8:56 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2010-02-09 9:14 ` AdaMagica
2010-02-09 11:19 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2010-02-09 14:26 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-09 6:34 ` tmoran
2010-02-09 14:29 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-09 18:49 ` tmoran
2010-02-09 22:58 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-01 22:10 ` Jerry
2010-02-02 0:07 ` Randy Brukardt
2010-02-02 8:52 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2010-02-02 22:23 ` Jerry [this message]
2010-02-03 1:24 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-02-04 4:42 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-14 0:42 ` jonathan
2010-02-14 1:54 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-14 16:16 ` jonathan
2010-03-22 8:56 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2010-02-16 6:51 ` David Thompson
2010-02-04 4:13 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-04 9:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-02-04 9:23 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
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