* Re: IBM & Air Traffic Control
@ 1992-12-12 20:01 Alex Blakemore
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From: Alex Blakemore @ 1992-12-12 20:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
In article <1992Dec12.002523.27592@beaver.cs.washington.edu> pattis@cs.washingt
on.edu (Richard Pattis) writes:
> Anyone know more about the project. I thought the air traffic control stuff w
as
> being done "mostly" in Ada; if not, anyone know what language was used. Even
> better, anyone know what is "really" behind the delay.
Everyone I've ever talked to about that project was horrified - sure its being
done in Ada, but on IBM hardware with IBM management and IBM engineering.
In the early days, I was told their coding standards even forbade private types
,
talk about the last thing you want to do on a large complex system.
It sounds like this was a disaster before they ever got to code.
Though you're right it doesnt help Ada. (What do you think Ted?) (just kidding
)
Plan on taking the train for a few years after they introduce this thing.
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* Re: IBM & Air Traffic Control
@ 1992-12-14 15:58 aio!news
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From: aio!news @ 1992-12-14 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
In article <1992Dec12.002523.27592@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
pattis@cs.washington.edu (Richard Pattis) writes:
>
>In today's NYT business section, there was an article about the government
>threatening to cancel a $3.8 billion contract with IBM to overhaul the
>air traffic control system. It says
>
> "Because of a software foul-up, the contract with the FAA has already
> suffered an 18 month delay...The problems involve testing and integrating
> software in what is called the initial sector suite system..."
>
>This seems like a very large and embarasing screwup.
Unfortuantely this will probably give the Chicken Littles of Ada another reason
for Ada "falling", I mean, "failing" even though it is not a language problem.
There are other factors involved such as the lack of a stable development
environment and the transition to yet another IBM platform in the middle of
development. Given any project in any language, this would play havoc on any
schedule.
>
>Anyone know more about the project. I thought the air traffic control stuff
was
>being done "mostly" in Ada; if not, anyone know what language was used. Even
>better, anyone know what is "really" behind the delay.
>
>Rich Pattis
>
>
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> Richard E. Pattis "Programming languages are like
> Department of Computer Science pizzas - they come in only "too"
> and Engineering sizes: too big and too small."
>
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* Re: IBM & Air Traffic Control
@ 1992-12-12 18:40 Grego ry Aharonian
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From: Grego ry Aharonian @ 1992-12-12 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
They used their STARS technology instead of their AD/CYCLE technology :-)
Greg Aharonian
Source Translation & Optimization
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* IBM & Air Traffic Control
@ 1992-12-12 0:25 Richard Pattis
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From: Richard Pattis @ 1992-12-12 0:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
In today's NYT business section, there was an article about the government
threatening to cancel a $3.8 billion contract with IBM to overhaul the
air traffic control system. It says
"Because of a software foul-up, the contract with the FAA has already
suffered an 18 month delay...The problems involve testing and integrating
software in what is called the initial sector suite system..."
This seems like a very large and embarasing screwup.
Anyone know more about the project. I thought the air traffic control stuff was
being done "mostly" in Ada; if not, anyone know what language was used. Even
better, anyone know what is "really" behind the delay.
Rich Pattis
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Richard E. Pattis "Programming languages are like
Department of Computer Science pizzas - they come in only "too"
and Engineering sizes: too big and too small."
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