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From: REH <spamjunk@stny.rr.com>
Subject: Re: C++0x and Threads - a poor relation to Ada's tasking model?
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:49:12 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2009-08-14T07:49:12-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <625c577b-9097-4a8d-a9cb-dd986dd81f89@h30g2000vbr.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 2kra85p2lsrd7200mcfr9fn65s123468br@4ax.com

On Aug 14, 10:30 am, John McCabe <j...@nospam.assen.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
> Not significantly as far as I can see; C++ says behaviour on overflow
> on signed integers is undefined, and C seems to say that it's up to
> the implementation (which seems like the same thing). Both say
> unsigned overflow doesn't occur because they use modulo arithmetic.
>
> Unless of course I'm looking in the wrong place.
>

No, you're not. They both say that signed integer overflow is
undefined behavior. They diverge when it comes to other portability
guarantees. Both C and C++ have guaranteed minimum ranges (e.g., int
must be at least +/- 32767), and that each successive int type (that
is char, short, int, long, etc.) must at least support the range of
the one before it. It gets nasty after that because (if I remember
correctly), only C++ says that the SIZE of an integer type must also
be least as big as the one before it. I believe it is technically
acceptable for an implementation of standard C for sizeof(int) to be
larger than sizeof(long). This is, of course, pedantry on my part but
I just wanted to show that isn't safe to assume that C and C++ share
the same rules.

REH



  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-14 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-11 15:30 C++0x and Threads - a poor relation to Ada's tasking model? John McCabe
2009-08-11 20:51 ` Maciej Sobczak
2009-08-12 12:25   ` John McCabe
2009-08-12 14:51     ` Maciej Sobczak
2009-08-12 15:56     ` REH
2009-08-12 16:59       ` John McCabe
2009-08-12 17:21         ` REH
2009-08-12 20:41           ` Robert A Duff
2009-08-12 21:15             ` REH
2009-08-13  1:28               ` Randy Brukardt
2009-08-13  2:08                 ` REH
2009-08-13  8:38                   ` Pascal Obry
2009-08-13  8:57                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-13 11:32                       ` Pascal Obry
2009-08-13 12:28                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-14  1:15                           ` Brian Drummond
2009-08-14 11:24                           ` Language checks (Was: C++0x and Threads - a poor relation to Ada's tasking model?) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2009-08-14 12:01                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-14 13:33                               ` REH
2009-08-14 13:48                                 ` John McCabe
2009-08-14 14:51                                   ` John McCabe
2009-08-14 14:13                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-14 19:58                                   ` Language checks Robert A Duff
2009-08-15  0:10                             ` Language checks (Was: C++0x and Threads - a poor relation to Ada's tasking model?) Randy Brukardt
2009-08-14 13:10               ` C++0x and Threads - a poor relation to Ada's tasking model? Gautier write-only
2009-08-14 13:16                 ` REH
2009-08-12 21:24             ` REH
2009-08-13 13:51               ` John McCabe
2009-08-13 16:24                 ` REH
2009-08-14 11:09                   ` John McCabe
2009-08-14 13:00                     ` REH
2009-08-14 14:30                       ` John McCabe
2009-08-14 14:49                         ` REH [this message]
2009-08-14 14:54                           ` John McCabe
2009-08-14 15:35                             ` REH
2009-08-14 18:43                               ` Robert A Duff
2009-08-14 18:54                                 ` REH
2009-08-14 22:33                                   ` Robert A Duff
2009-08-15  1:15                                     ` REH
2009-08-15 14:24                                       ` Robert A Duff
2009-08-14 15:09                           ` Hyman Rosen
2009-08-14 15:12                             ` REH
2009-08-13 13:55           ` John McCabe
2009-08-13 16:45             ` REH
2009-08-14 11:14               ` John McCabe
2009-08-12 20:53         ` Maciej Sobczak
2009-08-11 23:53 ` jimmaureenrogers
2009-08-12  0:06   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-08-12  7:26   ` Maciej Sobczak
2009-08-12  5:29     ` stefan-lucks
2009-08-12 15:00       ` Maciej Sobczak
2009-08-12  9:27     ` Ludovic Brenta
2009-08-12 15:14       ` Maciej Sobczak
2009-08-13 12:47         ` Peter C. Chapin
2009-08-13 13:57           ` John McCabe
2009-08-14  7:39           ` Maciej Sobczak
2009-08-14 11:13             ` John McCabe
2009-08-14 12:23               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-14 12:50                 ` John McCabe
2009-08-14 13:50                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-14 13:58                     ` Niklas Holsti
2009-08-14 14:17                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-08-14 22:25                       ` Brian Drummond
2009-08-14 12:56             ` John McCabe
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