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From: "Kenneth W. Sodemann" <kwsodema@avistainc.com>
Subject: Re: Can Ada by popularized faster ?
Date: 1997/10/10
Date: 1997-10-10T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <61l9la$onr$1@news2.alpha.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 343DF700.87754946@sd.aonix.com


Dave Wood wrote in message <343DF700.87754946@sd.aonix.com>...
>safetran wrote:
>> How many vendors have products
>> that compare with Microsoft VC++ or Borland C++ and at a comparable
>> price ?
>
>I can think of one, and their name (unchanged for nearly a year
>now) starts with an A, ends with an X, and has ONI in the middle.

As a casual user of OA (Pro version) (we use a different Ada environment at
work, but I bought OA for use at home), and a user of several different C++
environments, I must disagree with statement to some extent.

1.)  OA Pro costs about twice what I could get VC++ Pro for.  This can be
expected, of course, mainly due to volume, and the fact that you can find
deals on VC++ just by turning around.  Still, I thought I would point this
out, as it means that it is not offered at a "comparable price".

2.)  In order for OA to really compare to VC++, the pro version ought to
come with three items that it currently does not:
   a.)  MFC bindings.
   b.)  Wizards for those binding.
   c.)  Some "Resource Workshop" type of program.
Item 2.c could be fully integrated (like App Studio in VC++) or not (like RW
in BC++), but either way, it should be there.  This would _really_ go a long
way in making your product comparable with VC++.

3.)  On a note related to 2.c -- keeping the GUI builder that comes with OA
at this time would be OK for folks currently using it, but I personally
would find the MFC binding / Wizards / RW -- AppStudio combination to be
much more useful.

In short, the current Aonix offering is more akin to Watcom than to VC++ or
BC++.  IOW, it's not bad, but it has a ways to go yet.

Side question for Dave:  If I were to purchase the MFC bindings OA (which I
am assuming I can do without going all the way to the enterprise edition),
do those come with some sort of "wizard" or "builder" package, or do I just
get the raw bindings?

(reply posted and e-mailed).

Thanks;
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  reply	other threads:[~1997-10-10  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1997-10-09  0:00 Can Ada by popularized faster ? safetran
1997-10-10  0:00 ` Dave Wood
1997-10-10  0:00   ` Kenneth W. Sodemann [this message]
1997-10-10  0:00   ` No Spam
1997-10-10  0:00     ` Brian Rogoff
1997-10-16  0:00     ` Tom Moran
1997-10-12  0:00 ` Steve Doiel
1997-10-13  0:00   ` Andrzej Lewandowski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1997-10-13  0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-10-13  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-10-14  0:00   ` Paul H. Whittington
1997-10-13  0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-96
1997-10-13  0:00 Peter Hermann
1997-10-13  0:00 ` the_walrus
1997-10-16  0:00 William A Whitaker
1997-10-25  0:00 ` Dave Wood
1997-10-25  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-10-25  0:00   ` Larry Elmore
1997-10-30  0:00     ` TConiam
1997-10-31  0:00     ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-10-26  0:00   ` John Black
1997-10-27  0:00     ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-10-28  0:00     ` Stanley R. Allen
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