From: Shark8 <onewingedshark@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Runtime startup code for the GNAT Runtime...and a bit of humble pie.
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:27:29 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2013-03-26T19:27:29-07:00 [thread overview]
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On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:28:51 PM UTC-6, Diogenes wrote:
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> So I figure I might just be better off writing my own implementations of these things that have NO circular dependencies.
Circularity can certainly be a bad thing, the problem is likely that they (GNAT) didn't explain the circularity well. {And it's perfectly possible to have two package bodies dependent on the other's spec w/o a circularity in the spec structure.} There is, however, one spot that I've used it to a good degree to simplify things: in my LISP interpreter (made as an an intro to Ada 2012) I have two packages branching out from the base LISP which are mutually dependent: LISP.Lists and LISP.Elements -- each defining their respective objects and the operations on them. {List.Head returns an element and Element.As_List/To_List return lists.}
Though what I've found really useful in that project is private packages. {I use it to handle strings internally, keeping that from being exposed to the user.}
> One specific goal of my runtime is a clear hierarchy that progress directly from ada.ads out to the leaf packages(nodes). No circular deps. No package should depend on another package that depends on the first package.
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> This structure should take about %60 of the teeth gnashing out of the porting process.
I like that idea. One thing that might prove interesting is using generic packages: say for holding the definitions of those primitive/overridable functions you mentioned {clone(), futex(), etc} in its formal-parameters. That might also be an interesting way to handle different instruction-sets -- having the parameter link a lowish-level idea to the instruction [or several instructions]. It might be a way to achieve a compiler that's easier to retarget.
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2013-03-18 20:59 Runtime startup code for the GNAT Runtime...and a bit of humble pie Diogenes
2013-03-18 21:14 ` Robert A Duff
2013-03-19 0:07 ` Diogenes
2013-03-19 10:04 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-19 12:51 ` Simon Clubley
2013-03-19 18:16 ` Ludovic Brenta
2013-03-20 1:05 ` Simon Clubley
2013-03-20 10:13 ` Mike H
2013-03-20 20:44 ` Ludovic Brenta
2013-03-19 21:43 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-03-20 8:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-03-21 0:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-03-21 19:08 ` Shark8
2013-03-21 23:34 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-03-22 16:39 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-03-23 10:56 ` Thomas Løcke
2013-03-19 23:13 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-20 0:54 ` Simon Clubley
2013-03-20 11:50 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-20 13:18 ` Simon Clubley
2013-03-26 11:04 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-26 22:38 ` Simon Clubley
2013-03-27 11:34 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-27 14:38 ` Simon Clubley
2013-03-27 22:58 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-20 14:17 ` Lucretia
2013-03-20 15:00 ` Lucretia
2013-03-21 16:39 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-23 4:35 ` Diogenes
2013-03-26 21:27 ` Diogenes
2013-03-26 21:57 ` Shark8
2013-03-27 0:28 ` Diogenes
2013-03-27 2:27 ` Shark8 [this message]
2013-03-27 10:05 ` Brian Drummond
2013-03-27 12:23 ` Simon Wright
2013-03-27 19:07 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-03-27 21:10 ` Diogenes
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