Question: How do I establish a (.exe) program link for immediate calling of my cipher programs from a computer desktop say.

Question: How do I establish a (.exe) program link for immediate calling of my cipher programs from a computer desktop say.

[Austin Obyrne]

When you've all stopped laughing at this mundane question would somebody please put me right.

My interest alone is in the core cipher programs that I write and store away in folders in my computer and I would like to make these programs more portable locally here at home. 

Apart from being a very good problem solver in Ada I have no pretention of being able to 'mix it' with the heavier developers in your group so I have no compunction about humbly slapping my soul on the table in this matter.

I need to be able to do this as de rigueur in future with finished work because I want to make my stuff to be more transparent and user-friendly.

Your help as always would be appreciated.

Cheers - Austin O'Byrne

Re: Question: How do I establish a (.exe) program link for immediate calling of my cipher programs from a computer desktop say.

[MM]

On Friday, 6 March 2015 09:05:02 UTC, Austin Obyrne  wrote:
> When you've all stopped laughing at this mundane question would somebody please put me right.
> 
> My interest alone is in the core cipher programs that I write and store away in folders in my computer and I would like to make these programs more portable locally here at home. 
> 
> Apart from being a very good problem solver in Ada I have no pretention of being able to 'mix it' with the heavier developers in your group so I have no compunction about humbly slapping my soul on the table in this matter.
> 
> I need to be able to do this as de rigueur in future with finished work because I want to make my stuff to be more transparent and user-friendly.
> 
> Your help as always would be appreciated.
> 
> Cheers - Austin O'Byrne

Whenever you hit the 'Run ' button in your IDE, a .exe file is produced.
That is how the program gets run.

You will see these .exe files in all the .zip files you have uploaded
to your web site. You will also see a bunch of .obj files, which are
the compiled, but not yet linked files produced when each .adb (Ada
source) file is compiled.

Your Windows machine may not display the extensions by default,
but you can turn them on. (Under the "View" option/tab, if I remember
correctly.)

M
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Re: Question: How do I establish a (.exe) program link for immediate calling of my cipher programs from a computer desktop say.

[Austin Obyrne]

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 9:48:43 AM UTC, MM wrote:
> On Friday, 6 March 2015 09:05:02 UTC, Austin Obyrne  wrote:
> > When you've all stopped laughing at this mundane question would somebody please put me right.
> > 
> > My interest alone is in the core cipher programs that I write and store away in folders in my computer and I would like to make these programs more portable locally here at home. 
> > 
> > Apart from being a very good problem solver in Ada I have no pretention of being able to 'mix it' with the heavier developers in your group so I have no compunction about humbly slapping my soul on the table in this matter.
> > 
> > I need to be able to do this as de rigueur in future with finished work because I want to make my stuff to be more transparent and user-friendly.
> > 
> > Your help as always would be appreciated.
> > 
> > Cheers - Austin O'Byrne
> 
> Whenever you hit the 'Run ' button in your IDE, a .exe file is produced.
> That is how the program gets run.
> 
> You will see these .exe files in all the .zip files you have uploaded
> to your web site. You will also see a bunch of .obj files, which are
> the compiled, but not yet linked files produced when each .adb (Ada
> source) file is compiled.
> 
> Your Windows machine may not display the extensions by default,
> but you can turn them on. (Under the "View" option/tab, if I remember
> correctly.)
> 
> M
> --

<Whenever you hit the 'Run ' button in your IDE, a .exe file is produced.
<That is how the program gets run. 

If I'm reading you correctly I have to open my folder and run the programs from there as .exe program files ?

What I would like to do is to move single programs from within any folder to other parts of my computer like say 'My Documents' in Windows and run them from there as standalone .exe or even say as part of an opening 'Welcome' page if that is feasible ?

Many thanks - Austin

Re: Question: How do I establish a (.exe) program link for immediate calling of my cipher programs from a computer desktop say.

[MM]

On Friday, 6 March 2015 09:58:50 UTC, Austin Obyrne  wrote:
> On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 9:48:43 AM UTC, MM wrote:
> > On Friday, 6 March 2015 09:05:02 UTC, Austin Obyrne  wrote:
> > > When you've all stopped laughing at this mundane question would somebody please put me right.
> > > 
> > > My interest alone is in the core cipher programs that I write and store away in folders in my computer and I would like to make these programs more portable locally here at home. 
> > > 
> > > Apart from being a very good problem solver in Ada I have no pretention of being able to 'mix it' with the heavier developers in your group so I have no compunction about humbly slapping my soul on the table in this matter.
> > > 
> > > I need to be able to do this as de rigueur in future with finished work because I want to make my stuff to be more transparent and user-friendly.
> > > 
> > > Your help as always would be appreciated.
> > > 
> > > Cheers - Austin O'Byrne
> > 
> > Whenever you hit the 'Run ' button in your IDE, a .exe file is produced.
> > That is how the program gets run.
> > 
> > You will see these .exe files in all the .zip files you have uploaded
> > to your web site. You will also see a bunch of .obj files, which are
> > the compiled, but not yet linked files produced when each .adb (Ada
> > source) file is compiled.
> > 
> > Your Windows machine may not display the extensions by default,
> > but you can turn them on. (Under the "View" option/tab, if I remember
> > correctly.)
> > 
> > M
> > --
> 
> <Whenever you hit the 'Run ' button in your IDE, a .exe file is produced.
> <That is how the program gets run. 
> 
> If I'm reading you correctly I have to open my folder and run the
> programs from there as .exe program files ?

"Can", not "have to".

> What I would like to do is to move single programs from within any
> folder to other parts of my computer like say 'My Documents' in
> Windows and run them from there as standalone .exe or even say as
> part of an opening 'Welcome' page if that is feasible ?

Best is to try it and solve any issues that crop up.

You may have to do something clever with .dll files (shared libs)
but I think you'll get lucky.

M
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Re: Question: How do I establish a (.exe) program link for immediate calling of my cipher programs from a computer desktop say.

[Austin Obyrne]

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 10:11:21 AM UTC, MM wrote:
> On Friday, 6 March 2015 09:58:50 UTC, Austin Obyrne  wrote:
> > On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 9:48:43 AM UTC, MM wrote:
> > > On Friday, 6 March 2015 09:05:02 UTC, Austin Obyrne  wrote:
> > > > When you've all stopped laughing at this mundane question would somebody please put me right.
> > > > 
> > > > My interest alone is in the core cipher programs that I write and store away in folders in my computer and I would like to make these programs more portable locally here at home. 
> > > > 
> > > > Apart from being a very good problem solver in Ada I have no pretention of being able to 'mix it' with the heavier developers in your group so I have no compunction about humbly slapping my soul on the table in this matter.
> > > > 
> > > > I need to be able to do this as de rigueur in future with finished work because I want to make my stuff to be more transparent and user-friendly.
> > > > 
> > > > Your help as always would be appreciated.
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers - Austin O'Byrne
> > > 
> > > Whenever you hit the 'Run ' button in your IDE, a .exe file is produced.
> > > That is how the program gets run.
> > > 
> > > You will see these .exe files in all the .zip files you have uploaded
> > > to your web site. You will also see a bunch of .obj files, which are
> > > the compiled, but not yet linked files produced when each .adb (Ada
> > > source) file is compiled.
> > > 
> > > Your Windows machine may not display the extensions by default,
> > > but you can turn them on. (Under the "View" option/tab, if I remember
> > > correctly.)
> > > 
> > > M
> > > --
> > 
> > <Whenever you hit the 'Run ' button in your IDE, a .exe file is produced.
> > <That is how the program gets run. 
> > 
> > If I'm reading you correctly I have to open my folder and run the
> > programs from there as .exe program files ?
> 
> "Can", not "have to".
> 
> > What I would like to do is to move single programs from within any
> > folder to other parts of my computer like say 'My Documents' in
> > Windows and run them from there as standalone .exe or even say as
> > part of an opening 'Welcome' page if that is feasible ?
> 
> Best is to try it and solve any issues that crop up.
> 
> You may have to do something clever with .dll files (shared libs)
> but I think you'll get lucky.
> 
> M
> --

Many thanks - I guess that answers my question for now - Regards

Re: Question: How do I establish a (.exe) program link for immediate calling of my cipher programs from a computer desktop say.

[MM]

Hi

You have a terminology problem which makes you harder to understand.

> Question: How do I establish a (.exe) program link for immediate calling
> of my cipher programs from a computer desktop say.

Programs are not "established"; they are "compiled (and linked)" or "built".

The term "a (.exe) program link" should just be "an executable program".

The term "immediate calling" has no meaning, but I guess you intend to
say "running". Programs are "run" or "executed", not "called".

The relevance of the desktop is unclear.

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You also ask things that are contrary to your actions or contradictory:

On Friday, 6 March 2015 09:05:02 UTC, Austin Obyrne  wrote:
> My interest alone is in the core cipher programs that I write and store
> away in folders in my computer and I would like to make these programs
> more portable locally here at home.

This is a contradiction; either "portable" or "locally here at home", pick one.
Portability implies another place which you do not make known. It could be
customers or co-workers for example. (I suspect you mean the folks who
download your stuff; if so, best make that explicit).

> Apart from being a very good problem solver in Ada I have no pretention of
> being able to 'mix it' with the heavier developers in your group so I have no
> compunction about humbly slapping my soul on the table in this matter.

What does this mean? I don't know what "slapping your soul on the table"
means, but I suspect it is more hyperbole for humility that you never follow
up on. Folks have offered to help you fix your code and make it more
usable, and you have rejected *ALL* such offers.

My offer of a clean rewrite of your ciphers stands. You can have it and do
what you like with it.

> I need to be able to do this as de rigueur in future with finished work because
> I want to make my stuff to be more transparent and user-friendly.

This is good, if you want others to read and understand your code. It will also
help you do the same and make your programs easier to maintain. The words
you wrote, however, are harder to follow than they need to be. The "de rigueur"
doesn't fit properly.

> Your help as always would be appreciated.

Promise?

M

Re: Question: How do I establish a (.exe) program link for immediate calling of my cipher programs from a computer desktop say.

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 10:20:30 -0800 (PST), MM <mrvmurray@gmail.com> declaimed
the following:

>Hi
>
>You have a terminology problem which makes you harder to understand.
>
>> Question: How do I establish a (.exe) program link for immediate calling
>> of my cipher programs from a computer desktop say.
>
>Programs are not "established"; they are "compiled (and linked)" or "built".
>
	But if you elide the middle part, leaving "... establish a ... link
for..." it makes perfect sense...

	At least to me, this is a request for how to create shortcut icons that
will let him run his programs without loading the IDE and doing a build/run
sequence.

	Of course, how one creates such shortcuts is dependent upon which OS is
being used, possibly which windowing manager for some, whether the shortcut
is supposed to be for all-users or for the single login, and if the program
so linked needs an environment around it (does it open its own windows, or
is it a command line program -- since in Windows my experience is that many
command line programs will open a console window, but that window vanishes
as soon as the program exits; no chance to read any error messages), or
even if it needs to obtain command line arguments which may need to be
provided by the shortcut.



	For making it usable to others, I'd recommend the OP study up on the
standard installer/package managers for the system he's using... 

	In either event, NONE of the questions have anything to do with the use
of Ada, and everything to do with the computer system in general. Something
likely more than an appliance user is willing to undertake.

-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

Re: Question: How do I establish a (.exe) program link for immediate calling of my cipher programs from a computer desktop say.

[MM]

On Saturday, 7 March 2015 17:55:15 UTC, Dennis Lee Bieber  wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 10:20:30 -0800 (PST), MM declaimed
> >Programs are not "established"; they are "compiled (and linked)" or "built".
> >
> 	But if you elide the middle part, leaving "... establish a ... link
> for..." it makes perfect sense...
> 
> 	At least to me, this is a request for how to create shortcut icons that
> will let him run his programs without loading the IDE and doing a build/run
> sequence.

Interesting take! I have seen the OP's programs, and his programming
sophistication is very low indeed. His user interface is a combination
of source-code editing (using his very ancient IDE) and the program
soliciting input in an interactive series of prompts/reads.

What he appears to ask for and what he actually wants are frequently
very different.

It is vaguely conceivable he was asking how to make a desktop
symlink (Correct name shortcut? I'm a Unix weenie), but I suspect
he wants a GUI first, and I doubt he'll make any headway. I've done
a PoC GUI in Ada, and I didn't enjoy the experience.

M
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Re: Question: How do I establish a (.exe) program link for immediate calling of my cipher programs from a computer desktop say.

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 12:08:41 -0800 (PST), MM <mrvmurray@gmail.com> declaimed
the following:


>It is vaguely conceivable he was asking how to make a desktop
>symlink (Correct name shortcut? I'm a Unix weenie), but I suspect
>he wants a GUI first, and I doubt he'll make any headway. I've done
>a PoC GUI in Ada, and I didn't enjoy the experience.
>
	I don't doubt that he'll eventually want someone to explain how to
integrate the programs as well as PGP used to work with Eudora.
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

Re: Question: How do I establish a (.exe) program link for immediate calling of my cipher programs from a computer desktop say.

[Austin Obyrne]

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 5:55:15 PM UTC, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 10:20:30 -0800 (PST), MM <mrvmurray@gmail.com> declaimed
> the following:
> 
> >Hi
> >
> >You have a terminology problem which makes you harder to understand.
> >
> >> Question: How do I establish a (.exe) program link for immediate calling
> >> of my cipher programs from a computer desktop say.
> >
> >Programs are not "established"; they are "compiled (and linked)" or "built".
> >
> 	But if you elide the middle part, leaving "... establish a ... link
> for..." it makes perfect sense...
> 
> 	At least to me, this is a request for how to create shortcut icons that
> will let him run his programs without loading the IDE and doing a build/run
> sequence.
> 
> 	Of course, how one creates such shortcuts is dependent upon which OS is
> being used, possibly which windowing manager for some, whether the shortcut
> is supposed to be for all-users or for the single login, and if the program
> so linked needs an environment around it (does it open its own windows, or
> is it a command line program -- since in Windows my experience is that many
> command line programs will open a console window, but that window vanishes
> as soon as the program exits; no chance to read any error messages), or
> even if it needs to obtain command line arguments which may need to be
> provided by the shortcut.
> 
> 
> 
> 	For making it usable to others, I'd recommend the OP study up on the
> standard installer/package managers for the system he's using... 
> 
> 	In either event, NONE of the questions have anything to do with the use
> of Ada, and everything to do with the computer system in general. Something
> likely more than an appliance user is willing to undertake.
> 
> -- 
> 	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
>     wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

Many thanks Dennis for that useful advice - Austin O'byrne