From: rjh@cs.purdue.EDU (Bob Hathaway)
Subject: Re: Ada, "Software Fantasyland," and Quick Courses
Date: 16 Feb 89 21:08:16 GMT [thread overview]
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>In the Spring '88 and Fall '88 semesters, I taught an "Ada
>Programming Language" course at a small college. This was a rather
Some good schools have a "Software Engineering with Ada" course or
use Ada in their "Software Engineering" curriculum. Teaching a simple
Ada programming course seems to be the problem.
>"promoted" from computer operations. Not only were many unfamiliar
>with high-level languages, I had to justify structured programming!
>Strong typing was something to be defeated. (Was I naive for making
>assumptions about their background?)
A "Software Engineering" in the course title would have alerted them modern
principles were being taught.
>
>ADA IS NOT "JUST ANOTHER LANGUAGE."
>
>Many of the features of Ada make no sense to a programmer who is
>unaware of, and not motivated toward the concepts of structured
>programming, modularity, information hiding, object-oriented design,
>.... I could go on and on.
>
But many programmers are aware of all of this, I for one before learning
Ada. How long before my first Ada program worked (with generics, Adts,
dynamic arrays, arbitrary length strings, etc.) A few hours.
I would change the above quotation to read:
ADA is an incremental improvement in programming languages encompassing
modern software engineering principles.
>software engineering principles" for 7 years, it took two more years
>of working full-time on an Ada project to develop a minimal
>competence in the language---to learn "how to do it the Ada way."
It depends on your background. After a few years of C and Modula
programming and some independent reading on Ada, programming in
Ada was an incredible delight from the start: greater power than C
with the structure of Modula. I could see giving a one semester
"Software Engineering With Ada" course by simply using some good
references (Booch, Ada Letters, LRM) and by having a few experts
available.
>1. How much re-educating of DoD software enginners is necessary
> BEFORE teaching Ada? In other words, should we be teaching
> software engineering fundamentals first? What's the most
> effective way to do this?
I suggest a short time with "Software Engineering with Ada" by Grady Booch
is sufficient, possibly along with "Software Components With Ada" and the
LRM.
>2. How long does it take to properly re-educate a generic software
> engineer into an Ada developer? Can the cost be recovered?
This should depend on their previous experience and background.
>3. Where does Ada fit into the college curriculum? How can we
> educate students in good software engineering, not just give them
> "Ada" on their resumes?
Simple, offer a "Software Engineering with Ada" course like several
universities. I think Ada is currently by far the best language
for software engineering for both teaching and practice.
>
>4. What qualifications (read "experience working on Ada projects")
> should be required for those teaching Ada?
>
I know of one qualification which may be underemphasized: a genuine desire
to program in state of the art languages using state of the art methodologies.
I'm sure everyone on all the Ada committes could pass this test with ease...
>
>5. Can some of these efforts lead to an expansion of the Ada base
> beyond DoD and DoD contractors into other industries?
I certainly hope so. Since Ada offers the most modern programming constructs
and methodology I see little reason to use anything else. With
conferences discussing future enhancements I expect the situation to stay
that way, since other groups (such as the Modula-3 group) will keep the
leading edge in state of the art programming language design moving.
Bob Hathaway
rjh@purdue.edu
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1989-02-15 18:54 Ada, "Software Fantasyland," and Quick Courses Marc J Balcer
1989-02-16 21:08 ` Bob Hathaway [this message]
1989-02-17 3:29 ` Jacob Gore
1989-02-17 16:04 ` William Thomas Wolfe,2847,
1989-02-26 18:02 ` Alan Beal
1989-02-26 20:39 ` "Software Fantasyland," and Government Agencies Devon Tuck
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